Hi David Thanks for your comments - I'm afraid your observations match the experiences of many. Your offer of help is much appreciated - the content of tiddlywiki.com lives in a TiddlySpace ( http://tiddlywiki-com.tiddlyspace.com/ and http://tiddlywiki-com-ref.tiddlyspace.com/). If you've got a TiddlySpace account I can add you as a member.
I should point out that the plan is for tiddlywiki5 to replace tiddlywiki on the front page of tiddlywiki.com at the point where tiddlywiki5 transitions to beta (soon!). In the meantime I'm focussed on getting the tiddlywiki5 docs sorted out. Best wishes Jeremy On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:53 AM, David Bakin <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:29:01 PM UTC-7, Tobias Beer wrote: >> >> This should get you going with reusing tidbits accross TiddlyWikis rather >> than synchronizing... >> >> https://groups.google.com/**forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/** >> tiddlywiki/rQz8aDt76vQ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/rQz8aDt76vQ> >> >> Cheers, Tobias. >> > Oh boy! Yes, I'll look at that. > > I'm really enjoying getting started with tiddlywiki. But the learning > curve, once you get past simple wiki markup, is rather steep. And it is > somewhat hard to find information on one's own even given the multitude of > help wikis, plus this group. So I truly appreciate the answers I've been > getting over the past couple of days from you (and others) here in this > group. > > I don't want to seem a complainer - as I said I'm really getting going > with using tiddlywiki - but ... here's a viewpoint from a newbie: > > You know, the main issue a newbie has in approaching tiddlywiki at this > time is that it has grown continuously and organically over a number of > years and the information is now somewhat spread out. And, in addition, it > is subject to bit rot. (For example, download the empty 2.8.1 tiddlywiki, > go to the examples tiddler, and see how many of those links no longer > work.) Help content that is linked to is missing in some cases. Some > plugins no longer work properly. And so on. A second issue is that there > is a somewhat unique technical vocabulary associated with tiddlywiki and I > have yet to find a glossary. (E.g., what is 'transclusion'? What is a > 'slice'?) A lot of the help that exists is rather reference-oriented > rather than tutorial-oriented - the tutorials seem to stop after simple > wiki markup. And finally, some things that should work don't really work - > at least for me. I've yet to be able to import a plugin from any standard > site, I get "CORS" errors, whatever they are. > > (By the way, I've seen this issue before: The Squeak (Smalltalk) community > has the same issues, and worse, and for the same reason: Continual > development and improvement.) > > I guess, from my POV, the two biggest improvements that could be made are > a) to curate some of the bitrot/linkrot in the principle points of entry - > especially the empty tiddlywiki, and b) to promote the development and > distribution of some intermediate tutorials. > > I'd like to contribute to an effort like that. I think I will, > ultimately, write one or more intermediate tutorials focused on some issues > as I progress up the learning curve. > > Anyway ... again, please don't think I'm a big complainer ... I'm working > hard to develop tiddlywiki skills and habits ... and I mention all this to > encourage you, and others, to answer questions on this forum! Because it > is really helpful! > > Thanks! -- David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
