Hi Dave,

Thanks for the fast reply.
I'll have a look at your 5notes.
It is one of the best ways to learn: looking at others solutions.

Cheers,

Ton

On Monday, September 30, 2013 4:31:23 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> I will only address the last item. It is already possible to do a topmenu. 
> See here: http://giffmex.org/5notes.htm
>
> The three tiddlers I adjusted were $:/TopSideBar, 
> $:/core/ui/PageTemplate<http://giffmex.org/5notes.htm#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FPageTemplate>and
>  
> $:/StyleSheet <http://giffmex.org/5notes.htm#%24%3A%2FStyleSheet>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Dave
>
> On Monday, September 30, 2013 9:21:54 AM UTC-5, Ton Gerner wrote:
>>
>> When I first started with TW5 I thought: "What a waste of space".
>> When you open TW5 fullscreen on a widescreen monitor you see the open 
>> tiddlers at the left (the "story river"), the Sidebar in the middle and a 
>> very empty gray space at the right.
>>
>> For sure I am biased. In all my TWc wikis there is no left sidebar ("main 
>> menu") visible, the right sidebar can be toggled invisible/visible , I use 
>> a "top menu" containing a search box and the most used commands and the 
>> rest of the space is for tiddler content. And I use often nested tabs, 
>> where these tabs are "part of my TWs TOC".
>> Some use cases are given in the thread about my question about a 'tabs' 
>> macro in TW5: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/fA23Z6qtQE8/VWCSE-vcWA0J
>>
>> So I am playing around with TW5, digging in the styles and so on trying 
>> to mimic my TWc wikis.
>>
>> The layout of TW5 looks like 2 'frames' besides each other: left the 
>> "story river" and at the right the Sidebar with "page controls" that can be 
>> scrolled separately.
>> In $:/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks the Story right and Story width are set 
>> at 770px. This gives the behavior as mentioned in the first paragraph.
>> Here you can e.g. reverse the right sidebar and the story river.
>>
>> This brings up the following questions:
>> 1) Is it or will it be possible in future to do it the other way around: 
>> counting from the right side instead of counting from the left side?
>> 2) Is it or will it be possible in future to do it more "dynamically", 
>> e.g. at the right a fixed width for the right sidebar (counting from the 
>> right) and the rest of the screen window filled automatically (tiddler 
>> width = screen width minus right sidebar)?
>> 3) Is it or will it be possible in future to toggle the right sidebar 
>> on/off (dynamically adjusting the story river)?
>>
>> Looking at the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate I saw 2 optional bars:
>> {{$:/TopSideBar}}
>> {{$:/LeftSideBar}}
>>
>> So I tried to make a top menu with the new tiddler, control panel and 
>> save buttons in it, by copying the button code from the 
>> $:/core/ui/PageTemplate 
>> into the $:/TopSideBar tiddler.
>> Thus the $:/TopSideBar contains:
>> <div class="tw-page-controls">
>> <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" 
>> class="btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/new-button}}</$button><$link 
>> to="$:/ControlPanel">{{$:/core/images/options-button}}</$link><$button 
>> message="tw-save-wiki" 
>> class="btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/save-button}}</$button>
>> </div>
>>
>> The buttons are shown and do work in the $:/TopSideBar tiddler itself.
>> Via the transclusion of $:/TopSideBar in the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate the 
>> "button images" show up in the top left corner of the screen but they do 
>> not work as buttons.
>> I also noted the button images scroll together with the open tiddlers and 
>> not with the sidebar as I expected.
>> After fiddling with styles (copied from the 
>> $:/core/templates/static.template.css) I ended with a working set of 
>> buttons at the top of the page but then I could not access the tiddlers 
>> and/or right sidebar anymore!
>> So at the moment it is beyond my (very basic) knowledge of CSS ;) 
>>
>> Question: Is it or will it be possible in future to add a top menu - in 
>> an easy way?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ton
>>
>

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