As a general P/S I am not a "Google" hater by design. It has taken them a 
lot of work to finally push me to the point of where I am actually ready 
and wanting to toss them out of my life.

I was among the first people to use Gmail,Froogle, Docs, Voice, Drive, 
Devtools, Analytic, reader, maps, Android...etc 
I've been using an Android phone since the very first gen, and I've been 
promoting peoples and companies use of Google products for over a decade.

Two years ago if you would have come up to me you would have found a 
dedicated long time Google fan who was a little concerned about some 
things, but had faith in a company that I had seen do many great things.

On Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:00:32 PM UTC-7, Arc Acorn wrote:
>
> I could care less about their "invasive data collection" my issues with 
> them is the way the are bullying and blackmailing other companies and even 
> developers. The ridiculous ways they are taking control of open source 
> code, and their sickening fetish with forcing G+ accounts on everyone.
>
> I'm not a big fan of MS either but you know MS is a closed source vendors 
> who makes their intentions very clear. 
> Google acts like they are fighting for an open standard world and than 
> they wait 'til your backs turned and acts just like MS if not worse. 
>
> If I had to pick one I'd rather trust the company that's openly evil, and 
> that's saying a lot for me right now given that I'm a pretty hardcore 
> windows 8 hater... Using a "Windows" Phone to me is out and out dreadful 
> and yet I'm still thinking... if another OS doesn't hit the market it's the 
> lesser of the 3 evils. 
>
>
> On Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:44:16 PM UTC-7, GeoD wrote:
>>
>> Does it really surprise you?
>> Things change when you have a *1st quarter* revenue of $14 billion and 
>> net income of $3.35 billion.
>>
>> While I am unhappy about their (IMHO) invasive data collection they still 
>> provide a heck of a lot of
>> FREE services offering real value to the general public and developers in 
>> particular. Google is also
>> a primary technology driver in web development, A/V development, actually 
>> open standards, cloud
>> storage, even these lists that are so important to our software 
>> development. Say what you will about
>> control over Android, that is possibly the main reason it has not 
>> fragmented into hundreds of 'distros'
>> and stalled in the marketplace. We have come to expect that Android 
>> applications 'just work' no matter 
>> what phone or tablet we use and a very high percentage of the time they 
>> do. I am not an apologist 
>> for Google (and neither do I or any of my relatives work for them ;-) but 
>> ... has M$oft done as much??
>> ~GeoD
>>
>>
>>

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