Thanks for chiming in, Tobi! On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:23:24 PM UTC-4, Tobias Beer wrote:
A) All this doesn't sound very good. What happens if you run IE11 in > compatibility mode? Possible? > "Compatibility mode" seems to mean something a bit different in IE11 than it meant in previous versions. I can set up all local pages to run in compatibility mode (which I had done once before to help out with a TW issue), but the save behavior remains the same (TW zeroed out when saving). There's no "quirks mode" that I can figure out how to access, either. HOWEVER — IE11 does have nice developer tools. Under the "Emulation" tab, you can choose to view a document in IE10, IE9, IE8, IE7, or IE5 mode. In those modes (with the dev tools pane open), I can use TWs under IE11 the same way I would have under IE10, IE9, and IE8. > B) Other than that, the extra what?!? > > Using the IE11 dev tools didn't tell me much (except that IE is rejecting >> the "extra <body> tag" it encounters when loading TWs with >> SharedTiddlersPlugin — which may be the cause of STP failing to include >> tiddlers from elsewhere). >> > At first, I thought this was caused by SharedTiddlersPlugin failing during startup. Since STP checks other TiddlyWikis and pulls in their tiddlers, I thought something was failing while the DOM was in a state of flux. It turned out to be something more mundane, however. I had SplashScreenPlugin installed, which (at least in the ancient version I have) adds a vestigial <body> tag to the MarkUpPreHead tiddler. It's harmless, but I'd never noticed it before. :) C) Any particular reason for using IE? ... would that be Maxthon and it > leveraging the ie rendering engine? Anything preventing you from using > Firefox (if only to run TiddlyWiki)? > Maxthon is the main reason I wanted to keep Trident running. Maxthon 2 (an old version itself) it terrifically elegant with TW, but I've long feared the day when I'd have to retire it entirely. (I'd always hoped that day wouldn't come until I was using TW5 on a modern version of Maxthon!) While I'm not crazy about Firefox, I don't mind making the switch for TiddlyWiki. HOWEVER — I'm HEAVILY vested in using SharedTiddlersPlugin to mix-and-match tiddlers from various TWs. On Maxthon, my initial startup time was ~60 seconds, which was perfectly acceptable. On Firefox, that startup time balloons to 8-10 minutes — and usually involves a crash if I disable FF's script timeout warnings, which means I have to spend that time periodically assuring FF that I want the script to continue running. Looks like I may have to do one of two things: Reconsider my reliance on STP and re-factor my TWs or do some serious reading about TiddlyWeb. :) > D) Any updates on the ie front? I mean, did you do some more testing / > fiddling with the settings? I also noticed that upgrading to win 8.1 did > reset way too many machine settings, so perhaps the answer indeed is still > somewhere hidden inside the security settings. > I went through the security settings one by one on Friday and Saturday, and I'm reasonably confident it's something in the Trident engine, not the settings. I'm fortunate to have a couple of in-use environments all running Maxthon 2.5 over different versions of IE — the Win 8.1/IE11 machine; a Win7/IE10 machine; a WinVista/IE9 machine; and a WinXP/IE8 machine. I keep the Vista/IE9 machine a close match to my main box since I use it for testing, so I was able to confirm what my old settings were. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
