Dear Richard,

I think you are onto something here with tiered learning. Your observation
about TiddlyWiki being used by people for personal and valuable information
is a valuable one. There is a lot of emotion bound up in ones personal
notes, and TiddlyWiki is the vehicle for connecting and grouping personal
insights.

One of TiddlyWiki's many joys is the way it gently pulls  you into wanting
to learn more about it. Thinking back to my first encounter I think it was
editing a tiddler TiddlyWiki.com and making a link. It's the experience of
using which got me hooked. Before long I wanted to change the colours - I
then encountered the warmth of the community - some of which I now
recognise as being part of many open source projects. It was my
introduction to open source culture and looking back it has had a huge
impact on the way I think about many things. Everything should be open
source, everything should be run like TiddlyWiki: my car, house, kids
school, local governant.....

Måns made an observation that tiddlng can be a therapeutic activity. I must
not be the only one not totally focused on producing a set of notes for a
groundbreaking use case (thanks to TiddlyWiki I now use words like ’use
case') -- the activity of tending to my TiddlyWiki is to enter a mental
zone where problems can be solved, people are diverse, interesting and
polite.

The diversity is especially interesting to me, and as an English person
subject to a public discourse where anti-European sentiment is all
pervasive, it's wonderful to find myself communicating with fellow
Europeans. It's refreshing - so much of online culture and popular culture
in general comes from the USA. TiddlyWiki culture has a certain feal about
it. And it it TiddlyWiki worked 'too well' - nobody would have any problems
and the side effect of an emerging  culture would simply not occur.

Back to tiered leaning... TiddlyWiki.com could host many TiddlyWikis, the
one which new people see could be minimal. The user could simply edit a
tiddler the download it. The simplicity of a new fresh TiddlyWiki on
one URL - minimal beauty there to see and experience. A 'blank sheet of
paper' ready for ideas --- so enticing a premise. (In the past if I had a
new idea I'd go through the ritual of buying a new notebook, a new pen or
something - now I get a new TiddlyWiki)

After editing, and downloading, and getting comfortable with tagging, I
think the next step is using a tag to change the appearance, using the
style sheet tag. I though Stephan did something rather cool in an answer to
a question. Rather than giving the answer he gave an example and
encouragement to use it on TiddlyWiki.com. I thought that this was a
breakthough - it reinforces the idea that once in the browser TiddlyWiki is
yours and yours only - there is no server connection!

And 'THERE IS NO SERVER CONNECTION' is quite a big thing to deal with... I
think it takes a while for the penny to drop. It opend up a huge number of
possibilities - being told that TiddlyWiki can be emailed, stored on a data
peg or put in a drop box all follow on from this astounding fact. I'd
emphasise that this is really a big thing for people I am introducing to
tiddlywiki to understand. Even technical people don't see the benefits -
rather they thing because its got no server then it's a toy for those
dabbling in development.

The latest step for me has been towards GitHub. I can see how beneficial it
is. Again this is a big step, and it along wth TiddlyWiki offers more
insight into coding culture - a culture which non coders can derive
benefits. For example, academics are now using GitHub for colaboration on
papers. GitHUb has jumped the gap. Having a TiddlyWiki with all the
documentation available from GitHub could be something to concider. This
would introduce the idea that documentation is part of the TiddlyWiki
experience. If you want to delve deeper into TiddlyWiki the notion of
co-creating knowledge and documenting it is part of being part of the
community -- if you want. It's also an entry into 'how knowlege should be
created' in more general terms. A learning practitioner should be engaged
in reflective practice and sharing knowledge in a community - this is what
academic publishing is all about, or should be about: it's lack or open
source ethos is only just beginning to be adressed - most knowledge is
behind the so called academic firewall.

Einought for now--'real life' calls...

Alex

On Saturday, 22 November 2014, jb <[email protected]> wrote:

> "In terms of easing adoption for new users, one possibility would be to
> consider a loose notion of tiered-learning. There are a number of basic
> concepts needed to use TW as a personal wiki and note-store. The next tier
> might be use of tags, lists, macros. The next tier might be templates and
> interface customisation."
>
> +1
>
>
> On Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:11:43 AM UTC+8, Richard Smith wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alex, That's really interesting.
>>
>> Widening the bandwidth carries both risks and opportunities, and only you
>>> can decide if it's something you might want to pursue.
>>> Part of the risk is this: Possibly what has kept this community so
>>> civil is the narrowness of its focus. It's hard to get personal when you're
>>> talking about plugins and uploads.
>>
>>
>> TiddlyWiki is such an interesting tool because we each use it for
>> personal projects and, I think, often things which are quite important to
>> us.
>>
>> It's also interesting that even though Jeremy built it, even he doesn't
>> know everything it can do. It's like having a Swiss-army knife where
>> someone finds a new tool every week that we didn't know we had.
>>
>> In terms of easing adoption for new users, one possibility would be to
>> consider a loose notion of tiered-learning. There are a number of basic
>> concepts needed to use TW as a personal wiki and note-store. The next tier
>> might be use of tags, lists, macros. The next tier might be templates and
>> interface customisation.
>>
>> Personally I have never really been into joining internet communities - I
>> can find enough snarky, judgemental people in the real world if I ever want
>> to - but I really like the TW community. It would be very interesting to
>> know more about what people use it for.
>>
>> I'm using it to write textbooks for high-school kids, how about you?
>>
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