Hi Dave

> And 5.1.5 will be released this week, right Jeremy?

Yes, there's nothing else big planned, but it'll still be a couple of days
before the release. In particular there's quite a few contributions
awaiting merging on github.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, David Gifford <[email protected]> wrote:

> And 5.1.5 will be released this week, right Jeremy? I am really eager to
> have this update. It's got some great stuff in it. Also I am eager because
> I have used some of the define newhere bits you  emailed me, but they don't
> seem to work in 5.1.4, only in my copy of the prerelease of 5.1.5. This new
> version HAS been in the works for a while, so don't keep us in suspense
> forever! :-)
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for their contributions. There are a bunch of good
>> suggestions in the thread which I'll try to pick up in the hangout on
>> Tuesday.
>>
>> A big topic is clearly how we improve the contribution process for the
>> documentation. I have a couple of thoughts:
>>
>> * We could initiate a TW5 community space on tiddlyspace along the lines
>> of tiddlywiki.org - it's a proven way to work. It would be good to try
>> out TW5's support for TiddlySpace in a multiuser setting (since it's not
>> been done before I think there may be some wrinkles to be ironed out).
>> * We should support documentation contributions by people taking a copy
>> of tiddlywiki.com onto tiddlyspot and making their edits there. I could
>> easily build a batch file that pulls down their changes and applies them to
>> the repo, so that I can convert their changes to a pull request (I don't
>> think there's any avoiding needing a moderation step for tiddlywiki.com)
>> * An alternative workflow for accepting those contributions would be to
>> support visual diffing in the import manager
>>
>> I've also got a couple of clarifications.
>>
>> > Perhaps there's a way to display a sticky above the github issues.
>>
>> We don't want to discourage people from suggesting and discussing new
>> features, but lets see how it goes and I can add a banner to the "new
>> issue" page if needed.
>>
>> > 4. You may think about a two level plugin list: the top part would list
>> the plugins that are officially sanctioned and compatible with the latest
>> release. The bottom part could be a growing list of webpages where
>> individuals have stored there plugins and goodies they have created for TW
>> but that may or may not continue to be compatible.
>>
>> That's pretty much what we've got:
>>
>> * Plugins listed in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Plugins are the officially
>> maintained and distributed plugins. They will be automatically upgraded
>> when using http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>> * Community plugins are listed in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Resources
>>
>> Perhaps we should maintain a catalogue of community plugins that is
>> separate from the general resources list.
>>
>> > Will 1.1.5 and the export feature make release before the moratorium
>> begins?
>>
>> Yes, the moratorium would start after 5.1.5's release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Whenever you have an open web page, you end up with spammers trying to
>>> create link drops.
>>>
>>> Probably a real wiki (with authentication) or even just a special thread
>>> on this forum would be better. I believe the better wiki systems track
>>> history, so changes can be rolled back when something useful has been
>>> overwritten.
>>>
>>> I feel the github process discourages documentation. The problem is that
>>> it's the same system of review for documentation as for code. Which means
>>> that you may have to wait a week or so before changes get applied, Sure,
>>> CODE needs to be thoroughly vetted so that TW doesn't break. But, unlike
>>> code, poor documentation is usually better than NO documentation, and it
>>> can be peer-reviewed and tweaked as time goes along. It's an odd quirk of
>>> human psychology that people tend to like to correct things that are
>>> already in place rather than creating new content in the first place. So
>>> getting something in place quickly (even if not 100% perfect) is more
>>> important than getting it publisher-ready on the first draft.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 21, 2014 6:37:16 PM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that we could try making a public tiddlywiki on tiddlyspot and
>>>> make a list of topics people want documentation for the most, then collect
>>>> explanations and examples from people and hopefully get someone who is good
>>>> at technical writing or design to collect everything into a nice tiddler we
>>>> can submit for inclusion on the main page.
>>>>
>>>> Is there interest in a project like this? It would allow people to make
>>>> small updates or suggestions for the documentation without having to do the
>>>> entire tiddler by themselves. Using github isn't hard, but this may
>>>> encourage more people to help out. That is if multi-user wikis are a viable
>>>> solution, if not we would need someone to manage it, which may not be
>>>> better than just using github the way it is now.
>>>>
>>>>
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