Yay! Thanks, Jeremy

On Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:31:33 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Dave
>
> > And 5.1.5 will be released this week, right Jeremy?
>
> Yes, there's nothing else big planned, but it'll still be a couple of days 
> before the release. In particular there's quite a few contributions 
> awaiting merging on github.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, David Gifford <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> And 5.1.5 will be released this week, right Jeremy? I am really eager to 
>> have this update. It's got some great stuff in it. Also I am eager because 
>> I have used some of the define newhere bits you  emailed me, but they don't 
>> seem to work in 5.1.4, only in my copy of the prerelease of 5.1.5. This new 
>> version HAS been in the works for a while, so don't keep us in suspense 
>> forever! :-)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for their contributions. There are a bunch of good 
>>> suggestions in the thread which I'll try to pick up in the hangout on 
>>> Tuesday.
>>>
>>> A big topic is clearly how we improve the contribution process for the 
>>> documentation. I have a couple of thoughts:
>>>
>>> * We could initiate a TW5 community space on tiddlyspace along the lines 
>>> of tiddlywiki.org - it's a proven way to work. It would be good to try 
>>> out TW5's support for TiddlySpace in a multiuser setting (since it's not 
>>> been done before I think there may be some wrinkles to be ironed out).
>>> * We should support documentation contributions by people taking a copy 
>>> of tiddlywiki.com onto tiddlyspot and making their edits there. I could 
>>> easily build a batch file that pulls down their changes and applies them to 
>>> the repo, so that I can convert their changes to a pull request (I don't 
>>> think there's any avoiding needing a moderation step for tiddlywiki.com)
>>> * An alternative workflow for accepting those contributions would be to 
>>> support visual diffing in the import manager
>>>
>>> I've also got a couple of clarifications.
>>>
>>> > Perhaps there's a way to display a sticky above the github issues.
>>>
>>> We don't want to discourage people from suggesting and discussing new 
>>> features, but lets see how it goes and I can add a banner to the "new 
>>> issue" page if needed.
>>>
>>> > 4. You may think about a two level plugin list: the top part would 
>>> list the plugins that are officially sanctioned and compatible with the 
>>> latest release. The bottom part could be a growing list of webpages where 
>>> individuals have stored there plugins and goodies they have created for TW 
>>> but that may or may not continue to be compatible.
>>>
>>> That's pretty much what we've got:
>>>
>>> * Plugins listed in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Plugins are the officially 
>>> maintained and distributed plugins. They will be automatically upgraded 
>>> when using http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>> * Community plugins are listed in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Resources
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should maintain a catalogue of community plugins that is 
>>> separate from the general resources list.
>>>
>>> > Will 1.1.5 and the export feature make release before the moratorium 
>>> begins?
>>>
>>> Yes, the moratorium would start after 5.1.5's release.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whenever you have an open web page, you end up with spammers trying to 
>>>> create link drops.
>>>>
>>>> Probably a real wiki (with authentication) or even just a special 
>>>> thread on this forum would be better. I believe the better wiki systems 
>>>> track history, so changes can be rolled back when something useful has 
>>>> been 
>>>> overwritten.
>>>>
>>>> I feel the github process discourages documentation. The problem is 
>>>> that it's the same system of review for documentation as for code. Which 
>>>> means that you may have to wait a week or so before changes get applied, 
>>>> Sure, CODE needs to be thoroughly vetted so that TW doesn't break. But, 
>>>> unlike code, poor documentation is usually better than NO documentation, 
>>>> and it can be peer-reviewed and tweaked as time goes along. It's an odd 
>>>> quirk of human psychology that people tend to like to correct things that 
>>>> are already in place rather than creating new content in the first place. 
>>>> So getting something in place quickly (even if not 100% perfect) is more 
>>>> important than getting it publisher-ready on the first draft.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 21, 2014 6:37:16 PM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that we could try making a public tiddlywiki on tiddlyspot and 
>>>>> make a list of topics people want documentation for the most, then 
>>>>> collect 
>>>>> explanations and examples from people and hopefully get someone who is 
>>>>> good 
>>>>> at technical writing or design to collect everything into a nice tiddler 
>>>>> we 
>>>>> can submit for inclusion on the main page. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there interest in a project like this? It would allow people to 
>>>>> make small updates or suggestions for the documentation without having to 
>>>>> do the entire tiddler by themselves. Using github isn't hard, but this 
>>>>> may 
>>>>> encourage more people to help out. That is if multi-user wikis are a 
>>>>> viable 
>>>>> solution, if not we would need someone to manage it, which may not be 
>>>>> better than just using github the way it is now.
>>>>>
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