Hi,
here is a 60-year-old Newbie/end-user/non
IT-professional/ex-leisure-coder. Old-Timer.
*
**1. What were you looking for when you first found Tiddlywiki?*
Since many years I had been looking for a knowledgebase which
-is not restricted by a relational database architecture
-runs from a USB stick/disk on different devices
-does not need admin-installation in a corporate einvironement
-is independent from commercial software and operating systems, servers,
client-software, which suddenly might disappear
-is safe and secure
-needs no support from "cloud" - services, online applications,
corporate website (years ago Yahoo deleted my "briefcase", thank you!)
-can be started without a predesigned data-model like in a relational
database
-has no small print, license issues, legalese, monthly fees, and whatnot
*
**2. Was there anything about the program, the eco-system, whatever,
that frustrated you nearly to the point of giving up on it?*
it took me at least 20 attempts before I got the first TWC running; the
whole concept was un-understandable
I dont know css, no Java knowledge, rudimentary html knowledge (I am a
fossil from the basic/turbo-prolog/clipper/DB2/assembler era)
I found the idea that I have to use things like [[]] {{}} in order to
enter and process text information insane
I only got it going when I discovered Eric Shulman's website for TWC
(even though it is hard to understand) (sorry, Eric)
Lets face the facts: as Jeremy said: TW is complex, and there is no
denying it.
***
**3. What made you stick with the program?*
I stuck with TWC because it worked - 1 file, 3000+ big tiddlers, on a
plethoria of devices
The program, besides storing data, supports cognitive processes (see:
http://www.oliviergeorgeon.com/cognywiki.html)
Migrated to TW5 after I found the Google group, observed it for a long
time and found the early team around Jeremy trustworthy (did extensive
internet research on them; Jeremy's bio and the photo of the "Mexican"
with his family convinced me).
Advantage of the migration: my knowledge grows with the development,
because of the fantastic spirit in the group; in addition to code/some
html/css/node, I learn about this kind of software development: the
group is like an academy
I am confident that the community will develop enough components to make
TW a real thing, tiddlyclip could be a real OneNote-killer, TaskGraph
looks "unreal" and has the potential to process impact-chains,
causailties and many other of my issues MS Inc. has no answer for. (once
ran a knowledgebase on mindmap which was so big, it required an Area51.
Then it crashed.)
Today I took conference notes on a TW5.1.3 on my android phone, moved
them to my USBstick in the corporate office under MS in the afternoon,
will migrate them to a node.js on my laptop Saturday - and I am not
worried with respect to my intention to migrate from windows to Linux
soon Well ok, connection between different TWs is chaotic. TiddlyDesktop
would need something like the SyncToy (frm MS) or like Toucan
(portableapps.com). A synchronise function between several TWs would be
great. (OneNote has a nice one)
*Marketing of the product:* invite the freshmen from IT faculties in
emerging and transformation countries to participate in dedicated,
specialised projects; approach them through the professors. Maybe the
Oxford group could manage that? Include the United Nations, maybe UNDP.
Projects might be:
- tracking missing persons in disaster areas, (Earthquake, Tsunami,
Ebola). Remember: TW runs on phones! Probably even the cheap chinese
phones everywhere in the world. Would need a sync function to upsync
downsync between phone and a node.js when the aid staff has connection.
in the past, UN used MS Groove. Does TW run on satelite phones?
-the (cheap) smartphone as the student's notebook in countries where
students never ever had access to laptops, but all have a phone. (the
smartphone+TW as a new "one laptop per child"): how about small
"TiddlyWikis for Scholars", specially for phones, for special faculties
and semersters of natural science, which float around the world?
-decentralised newspaper, based on federated TWs on phones which sync
through bluetooth - that would be for African regions without TV/Radio.
Or urban hipster communites.
-Bluetoth sync with phone-TWs as an alternative for twitter / facebook?
-rare species database, migratory bird observation, climate change
monitoring
Am 25.11.2014 um 20:52 schrieb 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki:
I am especially interested in the "New User" experience and at the
moment the specific question is what attracts people to Tiddlywiki in
the first place. We were all new users once and while we may not be
representative of the typical new user... I figure anyone who has even
found this group is a fairly advanced computer user in general... our
answers may offer some useful insights.
So...
1. What were you looking for when you first found Tiddlywiki?
In my case, I was looking for a wiki that was simple, didn't require a
specialized set-up and could fit on a USB flash drive.
2. Was there anything about the program, the eco-system, whatever,
that frustrated you nearly to the point of giving up on it?
In my case, the documentation at the time was almost more than I could
handle. Even figuring out how to Underline and Bold text seemed to
require wading through a pile of documentation that seemed to be
written by geeks for geeks.
3. What made you stick with the program?
Ultimately for me it was the fact there was ongoing support and
development. The competitive products seemed on the verge of dying or
were dead products already.
I would like to see answers to my three questions from several folks
and I would also like to hear from whoever it was who used Tiddlywiki
in a classroom setting. How did it go with the students?
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