Hi Tom, > Why don't they enable the two very useful settings for visitors: > > - automatically update Browser URL with the tiddlers permalink > - automatically update the Site Name with the actual tiddlers Title > > Is what I am wondering, too, and why I opened...
#1376 — set url to current tiddler on tw.com <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/1376> ...even though I had heard of those rumors about confusion. I truly don't see based on what someone would have the expectation of bookmarking a startpage when one was clearly diving into a "site". Also, when I reload a page, I expect to see the page as it was and not some startpage. You may want the "I always want to start clean" behavior for your own wiki, but for a website that seeks to benefit its visitors via addressing a currently viewed "page", I don't get it. We can sure discuss what the current "page" is. Personally, I'm in favor of it by default being the last tiddler rather than the entire story... if only for that much cleaner url. Basically, when we turned on automatically updating permalinks we had lots > of reports of user confusion that refreshing the page didn't reset it to > the condition when they first visited. I have it turned on in all my > personal TiddlyWiki projects, and find it very useful. I hope someone is registering all the votes of people who reasonably expect the behavior of most every (conventional) website. Because this is where the true™ confusion is! As suggested in this comment <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/1376#issuecomment-73897049>, I do expect that — when I click the home button or visit the start page — to not see any hashes behind the base-url. For this, I have made another ticket for further discussion: *#1498 — no hashes on home page* https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1498 One possible response might be to enable automatically updated permalinks > by default in the core (and thus empty.html), but disable it for > tiddlywiki.com/index.html itself. The exact opposite is what needs to be done — *empty.html* is for the user to configure who may not need or want some auto-perma-thingy. Personally, I always turn it on with every single wiki. TiddlyWiki.com, however, is expected to behave like a conventional site, even if a Tiddlywiki... so, to not turn on some form of perma-linking is thoroughly limiting, confusing and challenging. Imagine someone asking: Yeah, so now how do I share this "tiddler page" in Twitter, Facebook or Google Plus? Ah, so you say in some tiddler that somewhere there's some "permathingy" button for me to discover. Well, I guess for most that may be 10 steps ahead of their expectations or experience. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
