I wonder if there is a case for the "about Tiddly wiki" website not being a
Tiddlywiki....

There is -- and a mathematics specialist might want to jump in here -- some
kind of impossibility of defining something in its own terms..... something
to do with Godel incompleteness theory.

So how about this; the about TiddlyWiki webpage is not a Tiddlywiki, but
one generated from TW into the most basic type of HTML -- echoing the style
of early W3 pages.

Something like this: http://www.w3.org/WhatIs.html

A timeless style like this would IMHO add a sense of authority and
authenticity to the project. It frames TW as development of hypertext...
from pure html of the early days, though to Wards Wiki (the first wiki) and
now a personal wiki.  HTML has -- though developments like TW -- become an
everyday non-taking tool. TW is right up there in the cutting edge of Wikis
and web standards - this is the reason it has such integrity.

@Jerm mentioned in a recent hangout that he may be entering the world of
teaching, and in an early YouTube I recall him talking about hypertext as
the biggest innovation in text since the comma (I may be mistaken of
course) . A concise framing of TW in the history of hypertext tools would
be the kind of thing which could be useful to students of hypertext.

Of course, there would be a page with links to TiddlyWikis, but a "vanilla"
starting point would highlight the features of TiddlyWiki to a useful base
point. Evoking the design trends of the day in the explanations of TW while
looking impressive, ultimatedly undermines the timeless qualities of TW
 and the evocation of Chir

Alex

On 25 March 2015 at 19:27, Mat <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I see- I didn't realize tiddlyspot.com existed in addition to
>> tiddlyspace.com. I had been exploring some the tiddlyspace.com
>> subdomains. It seems the tiddlyspace.com TWs are more modern than the
>> ones hosted at tiddlyspot.com from what I've seen (of course many are
>> private within these, and maybe most TWs are decentralized and stored as
>> simple html files off the web).
>>
>
>
>> * Are there other tiddlywiki farms/hosters? *
>>
>
> I think my comment in this very recent thread
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/A3wR5VF6BOM>,
> answers these questions (se the summary-link).
>
> You can upload a TW5 to TiddlySpot, in fact it is setup to do in core
> (Controlpanel > tab Saving). So what you do is you go to Tiddlyspot, and
> create a TW (say a classic one - you won't use it). The you go to
> tiddlywiki.com and straight into controlpanel, tab saving. There you
> simply fill in the tiddlyspot-name you just registered and the password -
> and then click the regular sidebar save. It will upload a TW5 to
> tiddlyspot, and overwrite the TWc. Unfortunately you cannot use FF for this
> one-time-uploading-procedure. I think it works with any other browser, but
> know Chrome works for sure. I use FF but have set my Chrome to have the tw
> controlpanel as startpage so it's very quick when I set up a new tiddlyspot.
>
>
> <:-)
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