Hi Alec (and Alex) > I'm new here, a javascript developer from Ann Arbor, Michigan with a special interest in user psychology.
A belated welcome to the group (Alec already introduced himself over Twitter). > I've noticed TW has the potential to help me accelerate my life's purpose/passions--namely facilitating those in my social sphere > to realize their capacity to participate and empathize in the emerging global culture via social networking. That's very nicely put. Parenthetically, we've often discussed featuring user testimonials on tiddlywiki.com; this would be a great one to start with :) > // Intended plugin developments > - user management > - pulling data into user profiles from existing popular social networks > - user reward system, such as badges/points-- user feature permissions modules to progressively enable more complex features for users > so as not to overwhelm them, and also encourage -participation via scarcity > My dev intentions are purposefully grand (at least for me) -- which leads me to my next point, I want to encourage more developers to > spend time on the TW github. All great stuff, and there's some prior work/thought in some of those areas that may be useful to share. Those topics would make a good hangout discussion, too, if you get the chance to join. > // Driving more traffic to TiddlyWiki, facilitating a larger & stronger community > The way I found TiddlyWiki took almost 3 full days of research, reading through wikipedia articles and whatnot. At first I dismissed it, because I didn't realize how much more than 'A personal non-linear web notebook' TW is. Its beautiful, modular JavaScript! I also think that TiddlyWiki has a certain inner beauty when viewed from the right perspective (the stuff about it being a quine, for instance, with a single operation that is repeatedly repurposed: that of parsing and rendering wikitext to a render tree, with optional selective updating of an attached DOM tree). We have been working on the front page recently; you may be interested to see the work in progress at http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease > TW has the potential to make us all RICH! ;p There is that hope! I'd like to see the community working together in a framework that includes both for-profit and non-profit activities. I don't intend to try to make my living *from* the TiddlyWiki community, but I do hope to be able to make a good living *with* the TiddlyWiki community. > But seriously, I come from a internet marketing background as well, so I figured I could do the TW community a small favor and spent an hour compiling the most useful info in a report: Very interesting, I'm not familiar with that kind of material. Would access to the Google Analytics dashboard help your research? > One easy thing we should all do (unless you don't care about TiddlyWiki), is link to TiddlyWiki.com with our own sites using the keywords which will drive more traffic > and build a bigger community, see below: Yes, that echoes my exhortation to spread the word as the best way for people to help TiddlyWiki; open source projects need the oxygen of publicity in order to grow, and one of the best ways for us to generate that publicity is through grass roots web and social media postings. > I wonder if there is a case for the "about Tiddly wiki" website not being a Tiddlywiki.... I'm not against that at all. As I've said on Hangouts in the past, I'd like to see tiddlywiki.com become a news feed with signposts to the main TiddlyWiki sites (/dev, /gettingstarted, /plugins etc). It doesn't need to look like TiddlyWiki anymore. Using TiddlyWiki to generate a static site is a good way to go. Best wishes Jeremy. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote: > I wonder if there is a case for the "about Tiddly wiki" website not being > a Tiddlywiki.... > > There is -- and a mathematics specialist might want to jump in here -- > some kind of impossibility of defining something in its own terms..... > something to do with Godel incompleteness theory. > > So how about this; the about TiddlyWiki webpage is not a Tiddlywiki, but > one generated from TW into the most basic type of HTML -- echoing the style > of early W3 pages. > > Something like this: http://www.w3.org/WhatIs.html > > A timeless style like this would IMHO add a sense of authority and > authenticity to the project. It frames TW as development of hypertext... > from pure html of the early days, though to Wards Wiki (the first wiki) and > now a personal wiki. HTML has -- though developments like TW -- become an > everyday non-taking tool. TW is right up there in the cutting edge of Wikis > and web standards - this is the reason it has such integrity. > > @Jerm mentioned in a recent hangout that he may be entering the world of > teaching, and in an early YouTube I recall him talking about hypertext as > the biggest innovation in text since the comma (I may be mistaken of > course) . A concise framing of TW in the history of hypertext tools would > be the kind of thing which could be useful to students of hypertext. > > Of course, there would be a page with links to TiddlyWikis, but a > "vanilla" starting point would highlight the features of TiddlyWiki to a > useful base point. Evoking the design trends of the day in the explanations > of TW while looking impressive, ultimatedly undermines the timeless > qualities of TW and the evocation of Chir > > Alex > > On 25 March 2015 at 19:27, Mat <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I see- I didn't realize tiddlyspot.com existed in addition to >>> tiddlyspace.com. I had been exploring some the tiddlyspace.com >>> subdomains. It seems the tiddlyspace.com TWs are more modern than the >>> ones hosted at tiddlyspot.com from what I've seen (of course many are >>> private within these, and maybe most TWs are decentralized and stored as >>> simple html files off the web). >>> >> >> >>> * Are there other tiddlywiki farms/hosters? * >>> >> >> I think my comment in this very recent thread >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/A3wR5VF6BOM>, >> answers these questions (se the summary-link). >> >> You can upload a TW5 to TiddlySpot, in fact it is setup to do in core >> (Controlpanel > tab Saving). So what you do is you go to Tiddlyspot, and >> create a TW (say a classic one - you won't use it). The you go to >> tiddlywiki.com and straight into controlpanel, tab saving. There you >> simply fill in the tiddlyspot-name you just registered and the password - >> and then click the regular sidebar save. It will upload a TW5 to >> tiddlyspot, and overwrite the TWc. Unfortunately you cannot use FF for this >> one-time-uploading-procedure. I think it works with any other browser, but >> know Chrome works for sure. I use FF but have set my Chrome to have the tw >> controlpanel as startpage so it's very quick when I set up a new tiddlyspot. >> >> >> <:-) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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