Now Mario, be nice...:-) My adaptations tended to be the same way...I would experiment with one innovation, but then that would morph into a specific vision of an end product TW, with all kinds of bells and whistles to aid a workflow I had in my head.
I think what you are ultimately saying, Mario, and I would agree, is that he should keep the simple, central innovation of the fast new tiddler process in one location, teased out, so that it doesn't get overloaded or crowded out by peripherals, and that he should work toward the specific vision he has for its use and context, with peripherals, etc, in another location. Dave On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:08 AM, PMario <[email protected]> wrote: > OUCH!!!!! --- Take a break! > > Folks, > I think there's nothing left from the initial idea to have a fast and easy > way to take *one new note*. > > Compare the FastNewTiddler UI with a standard NewTiddler UI. > You'll see, that it looks very, very similar. ... *but *the "standard > NewTiddler" works. > > Now the FastNewTiddler has a toolbar?!? ... IMO there should be only one > button. "Done" which closes it. > > I was intrigued by the idea, that there should be a fast "throw away > interface" to create a single new tiddler. If the tiddler is created, the > UI should go out of my way. > > - If the tiddler is created it shows up in the "recent" sidebar. -> done. > > - If I want to open this tiddler for refactoring I use the existing UI. > -> I click it in the sidebar, which opens a standard tiddler UI. -> done > > - If I want to edit this new tiddler I click the existing edit button > from the existing standard UI -> done > > > Now the FastNewTiddler is/should be, what we call in German an "eierlegende > wollmilchsau <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eierlegende_Wollmilchsau>". > And now it should become the "Transclude first paragraph eierlegende > wollmilchsau > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/lN3GO7AIsoc>" .. > > Sorry Mat I don't want to be harsh, but I think you get the gist. I still > think the original idea is great! ... IMO there is a reason, why you get > overwhelmed. ... > > Please step back and have a look at the big picture. The "eierlegende > wollmilchsau" is an illusion! > > What really works is "separation of concerns" - "Do one thing well and > combine them later" (That's how most things in TW work;) > > Quoting from wikipedia > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_concerns> > > The value of separation of concerns is simplifying development and >> maintenance of computer programs. When concerns are well-separated, >> individual sections can be reused, as well as developed and updated >> independently. Of special value is the ability to later improve or modify >> one section of code without having to know the details of other sections, >> and without having to make corresponding changes to those sections. >> > > Sorry I'm not really sure what > http://fastnewtiddler.tiddlyspot.com/#Todo%20%28please%20help%29 should > do. But imo everything it proposes is already working at tiddlywiky.com > out of the box. Just the UI is different and imo more confusing. > > just my 2 cents. > > have fun! > mario > PS: Damn it. I don't want to sound like a schoolmaster :/ Sorry folks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/Xm5SsHCer6E/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9e15e89b-2b56-4eae-aa5a-452105637724%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9e15e89b-2b56-4eae-aa5a-452105637724%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CANE%3DBFLac4DRzYXpqCvpRJeDgFvTGKMmH2vb3GdWpqu3WA4gnQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
