On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 7:12:55 PM UTC-7, Jonnan wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm definitely not getting this syntax. Obviously I'm at the 'waving 
> a dead chicken over it' point, but generally I *can* wave a dead chicken 
> over it.
>

Admittedly, TW5 has it's twists and turns.  But that's because it can do so 
much!  Still, there is a bit of a learning curve, and the current 
documentation doesn't really do it justice.

Rather than trying to explain the depths of TW5 syntax here, I'll just try 
to answer your immediate questions...

I want to make a generalized version of this from the tutorial: 
> <<list-links filter:"[tag[Tag Template]] +[sort[title]]" >> where 'Tag 
> Template' is the current tiddler.
>

There is a built-in variable/macro named "currentTiddler".  Used in wiki 
syntax, you can write <<currentTiddler>> to *display* the title of the 
current tiddler.  To use the variable value in filter syntax, instead of 
[tag[text]], you can write [tag<variable>].  Thus:
<<list-links filter:"[tag<currentTiddler>] +[sort[title]]">>

After going through many variation trying to shoehorn variations of $title$ 
> {title} <$title$> and currentTiddler in that spot I found this thread.
> Given ...
> <$set name=title value={{!!title}}
> <<xxx>>
> </set>
>
> \define tags-test1() <$list filter="[tag[$(title)$]]+[sort[title]]" /> 
> <<xxx>> returns tag1tag2tag3... no ordering, but almost what I want.
>

you could write:
filter="[tag[$(title)$]] +[sort[title]]"
(put a space between the two filter "runs")
or:
filter="[tag[$(title)$]sort[title]]" 
(make one run with both tag and sort operators)

\define tags-test2() <$list-links filter="[tag[$(title)$]]+[sort[title]]" 
> /> 
> <<xxx>> returns Undefined widget 'list-links'
>

"list-links" (without the "$" prefix) is a TW core-defined *macro*.
To invoke a TW5 macro, use
<<macroname param:"value" param:"value">>
syntax.  Thus:
<<list-links filter:"[tag[$(title)$]] +[sort[title]]">>
 

> \define tags-test3() <$list-links filter:"[tag[$(title)$]]+[sort[title]]" 
> /> 
> <<xxx>> returns <$list-links filter:"[tag[Tag Template]]+[sort[title]]" /> 
>

Macros don't "wikify" their content before returning it.  They simply 
return their text, unaltered except for replacing the $(variable)$ and 
$param$ markers with the corresponding values.

>
> I'm really not getting the syntax of the system here, even well enough to 
> reproduce it for what ought to be really simple things, and the tutorial 
> seems to me to skip from simple To do this one thing do 'X' to "It really 
> quite easy you see <X{$(Y[X])$}> passes the variable as a parametrized 
> function using the context of the Y-macro to reverse the polarity of the 
> neutron flow".
>

I can appreciate your pain.  The best way to address this is to keep asking 
*specific* questions that have practical application.  That way, we can 
zero in on *examples* that really work.

In the mean time: NEVER EVER REVERSE THE POLARITY OF THE NEUTRON FLOW.... 
unless you have a charge of at least 1.21 gigawatts in your flux capacitor! 
 (and it helps if you are going faster than 88mph).
 

> I'd like to know where I went wrong in translating this to my tag-list 
> function/template, but I'd really *love* to know if there an intermediate 
> tutorial floating around somewhere that Googles not finding? I don't recall 
> the old tiddlywiki being this obfuscated?
>

TiddlyWiki Classic was just as quirky, if not more so.  The difference is 
that TW5 has *much* more powerful syntax... and with that power comes 
complexity.  Still, it's worth the journey.  

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
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