Hi Josiah

Don't listen to Eric, the real truth is that Jeremy likes to pronounce his 
name with a Sean Connery accent.

Dave

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 3:15:34 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Mr Ruston
>
> a fiddly point about why is your lead-in headed.... 
>
>    Re: [tw] To Jeremy Rushton - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...
>
> When my post was titled ...
>
>   To Jeremy Ruston - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...
>
> Is there an "H" macro running here?
>
> :-)
>
> Josiah
>
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2016 18:40:35 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Josiah is making a subtle, and useful, point in relation to some of the 
>> remarks I’ve made in the past.
>>
>> Those remarks were about the way that TiddlyWiki has a central duality: 
>> it exists both in its standalone HTML file form, and as a much more 
>> traditional Node.js server application. Both aspects of TiddlyWiki are 
>> important; in particular, the Node.js configuration is used to build the 
>> standalone configuration in the first place.
>>
>> The concerns that I have expressed are about the tension between 
>> developing and promoting the standalone features that make TiddlyWiki 
>> unique versus the server-based features that (could) make TiddlyWiki much 
>> more familiar to a general audience.
>>
>> I interpreted Josiah’s remarks as being a vote of support for continuing 
>> to emphasise the standalone configuration, and thus the unique use cases 
>> that can only be tackled by TiddlyWiki. He’s echoing a thought we’ve 
>> discussed before: that most of the users of TiddlyWiki are invisible, 
>> because it is used privately, and so posting here makes good sense.
>>
>> Josiah’s suggesting of making it easier to post to social networks is one 
>> of the core ideas explored by the IndieWebCamp community:
>>
>> https://indiewebcamp.com
>>
>> I’d agree that such functionality would be useful in TW. I frequently 
>> draft GitHub issues in TiddlyWiki (as a Markdown tiddler) and then manually 
>> copy and paste it into GitHub. Direct posting via the API would be pretty 
>> useful sometimes.
>>
>> In closing, my personal opinion remains that it is the standalone 
>> configuration that makes TiddlyWiki special, and that the Node.js 
>> configuration exists to serve that configuration. I do want to improve the 
>> multi-user experience, but even there I want to retain the value of the 
>> standalone configuration, by making it easy to work on updates offline and 
>> collaboratively merge them later.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On 26 Apr 2016, at 13:30, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Jeremy
>>
>> Both here and on the Dev channel I have seen you write about your 
>> concerns, in last few days, about taking TW too far towards server 
>> dependent systems.
>>
>> I TOTALLY AGREE.
>>
>> I am one of the silent users of TW. I developed, for my own use, many 
>> customized versions. I never publish them. I just use them locally.
>>
>> The idea TW step more towards on-line server mediated systems would erase 
>> its specialness, IMO.
>>
>> The one area where TW might be improved, for me, is being able to POST to 
>> social networks more easily. BUT interactive stuff that REQUIRES DEPENDENT 
>> linkage to function is not a good idea to have at the front.
>>
>> Its not that I, in anyway, think that "scaling up for server services" is 
>> bad per se. However, the MINIMALIST MODEL of the ONE-PAGE is, undoubtedly, 
>> its brilliance.
>>
>> Many thanks for inventing this thing,
>> Josiah
>>
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