Jan

I feel for you. One of the limitations with TW is when things fail is its 
quite difficult to pin-down why. The interface gives virtually no feedback. 

JSON is a much better format IMO because its not ambiguous in the way CSV 
can be. But I don't think I can help you on specifics because I  use a GREP 
engine (https://www.powergrep.com/) that requires understanding how to use 
complex Regular Expressions to prep text into JSON form.

Maybe I can help a bit if you can show me a fragment of what a native JSON 
the program makes looks like?

It may be that Mark S. is in the right direction on CSV. Its difficult to 
be sure. Anyway, I will happily look at any JSON file if you want.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Sunday, 15 May 2016 00:26:07 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Dear Mark,
> It crashed when I used 6 arrays with 5 entries...and it still crashed when 
> I pasted a single line. 
> The errorcode is: TypeError: araLine[j] is undefined
> Dear Josiah,
> I tried out various programms to convert csv to json. Both formats are to 
> be quite vulnerable if you have to convert them manually...If you got a 
> nice 'n stable solution I' d be thankfull. 
> I'd be glad if i coud avoid the detour vía json.
> I wrote an xml to make Zotero export csv-compatible strings. I attached it 
> though it is not yet perfect for all subjects (The Template for websites 
> and articles in journals are not ready yet... )
> Just pull it on firefox or Zotero to install  (and do not mind the error 
> message)...btw: Zotero can be found on https://www.zotero.org/ and is 
> very practical for scientific work. 
>
> The quotations look like this: 
>
> "*motion_picture*","Peter Greenaway", *"A Zed & Two Noughts",* "115 min", 
> "25.05.1990"
>
> "*motion_picture*","Steven Spielberg", *"E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial",* 
> "115 min", "11.06.1982"
>
> "*motion_picture*","Terry Gilliam", *"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas",* 
> "118 min", "22.05.1998"
>
> "*book*","John Howard Lawson", *"Film: the creative process: the search 
> for an audio-visual language and structure",* "New York", "1964"
>
> "*book*","Felicity Colman", *"Deleuze and cinema: the film concepts",* 
> "Oxford", "2011"
>
> I would like to create templates like
> "director", "title", "length", "date"   for the type motion_picture
> to parse the strings and create the tiddlers and fields directly out of 
> them.
>
> I guess this way is safer and easier than vía json...
>
> Jan
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> Am 14.05.2016 um 19:09 schrieb [email protected] <javascript:>:
>
> Ciao Mark & Jan
>
> This is an interesting issue. Personally I found that creating simple 
> JSON's using GREP tools, rather than relying on a programme's own routines, 
> is more successful for importable files. i dont know that particular 
> application. What i do know is that we should not expect Tiddlywiki to 
> natively cope with too much complexity. The simpler and more "flat-file" 
> the import the better in my experience.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> On Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:37:27 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: 
>>
>> So how did the csv2json crash? I imagine if you try to convert too much 
>> at once there will be problems.
>>
>> A quick look online suggests that the zotero RDF format may have more 
>> fields than the json export. RDF is (usually) just a text format (XML) so 
>> you could browse it and see if it contains everything you want. 
>>
>> If you have your data in the form of a table, what some people have done 
>> is to load it into a spreadsheet. Then add columns and rows to "decorate" 
>> the data so that it looks like a JSON file. Then copy the whole thing as 
>> text (usually need "copy as" functionality) and then paste into a text file 
>> to create your json file to import.
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 5:17:18 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hallo,
>>> has anyone discovered a workflow of exporting entries from a 
>>> Zotero-Library and reimporting them as Tiddlers.
>>> Although Zotero is able to create a json file, this is not packing the 
>>> interesting Data like autor and year, but useless information.
>>> I had big trouble importing the CSVs, but finally the render as Tables.
>>> Unfortunately they crash the MAS/csv2json.js 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/attach/5e2ffcbe2d088/Csv%20Wiki.html?part=0.1.1&authuser=0>
>>> -plugin...
>>>
>>> -Is there a way of generating tiddlers from a table within a tiddler?
>>> -Should i use a different format than json and csv to start with?
>>> -Has anyone experience with the Zotero  xul-editor to produce a better 
>>> .json-export?
>>> Jan
>>>
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