The hardest kind of problems to fix are where you can't reproduce the
problem.
When I try your scenario, and click on the selection for story A from the
drop-down list, TiddlerA always appears in the story -- without fail.
It occurred to me that you might have been referring to opening Story A
from the StoryA tiddler as well, so I tried it that way as well. TiddlerA
is always included in the story.
Also, just in case we have a misunderstanding about how it is to be used
(since it might work differently from Classic) you have to select the story
from the drop down list, and THEN click on Show Snapshot.
I've saved my versions of TiddlerA, TiddlerB, Snap A, and Snap B on MasHive
for you to check out and confirm that we're looking at the same thing.
What browser and operating system are you using?
Good luck!
Mark
On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 4:19:33 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> I tried the following at mashive (to exclude that the Problem is due to my
> configuration)
> Create TiddlerA to distiguish the stories, Save StoryA with TiddlerA,
> save StoryB without TiddlerA, open StoryA. TiddlerA should be present but
> it is not.
>
> Could it be the problem that the Variables snap and snapshot have the same
> value?
> <$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots_name!!storyname}}>
> When I changed unfortunately it had a kind of random effect.
>
> Thanks and good Luck
> Jan
>
> Am 30.05.2016 um 19:30 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> Are you sure you brought over/replaced the existing tiddlers? The plugin
> should provide "Story Saver with Mods" and "Template for Viewing
> Snapshots". If you have older tiddlers in your TW, I'm not sure which one
> wins.
> <http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/#Template%20for%20Viewing%20Snapshots>
> It seems to work the way *I* would expect at Mashive. When you enter a
> new snapshot and save, the one you just saved as becomes the one shown in
> the drop-down list. If you manually type in the name of an existing
> snapshot, it also gets selected in the drop-down list. If you type in an
> existing name, it also warns you that you are about to overwrite an
> existing tiddler. If you are not seeing this behavior, then perhaps you
> could take a screen shot. Or if you are expecting some other behavior,
> perhaps you could explain again.
>
> Thanks -
> Mark
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 1:05:00 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark.
>> Thank you so much for your help. The buttons on top of the Lists work
>> perfect. Unfortunately the behaviour of the button after the dropdownlist
>> is still the same.
>> I think I found the source of this: The button opens the story of the
>> Tiddler in the input field and not the one in the dropdownmenu.
>>
>> all the best Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 30.05.2016 um 06:53 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>>
>> I've made some updates at mashive. You can try dragging and dropping the
>> plugin or grabbing the new "Story Saver with Mods" which should
>> automatically go into the sidebar.
>>
>> Be sure to back up first!
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 1:35:44 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mark,
>>> I just pinned your StorySaver V3 from http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/ to
>>> my sidebar and realized a bug:
>>> The button behind the dropdownmenu always opens the story that was saved
>>> last, not the one chosen...
>>> I didn't notive this at first becaus this is the version in which you
>>> implemented the button on top of the list in the story-tiddler which works
>>> very fine...
>>> It woult be suberbe if you fixed this and perhaps you could add a
>>> check/warning behind the Save-Snapshot-button like this one:
>>>
>>> \define check-title()
>>> <$list filter="[all[current]get[draft.title]is[tiddler]]">This Tiddler
>>> already exists, you're going to overwrite it...<br>View it first?
>>> ><$link><$view field="title"/></$link>
>>> </$list>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> best wishes
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.05.2016 um 20:28 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>
>>> Hah! I bet this isn't what you really wanted ;-)
>>>
>>> You can drag-n-drop the EXPERIMENTAL plugin from
>>> http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/.
>>>
>>> The list is now stored in field "story". The view template includes a
>>> button to open everything in a snapshot. Probably need to tweak that
>>> eventually.
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 8:35:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>> now I had the time to try out both attemps. They both work very good.
>>>> Many thanks for this.
>>>> Do you want to make them accessible for the community by turning them
>>>> into a plugin, I think this could be useful for some of us?
>>>>
>>>> I like your first solution (V3) better, I think it could even be an
>>>> advantage that the tiddlers are stored in a list-field.
>>>> -Would it be possible to give this List-field a custom name for example
>>>> "story"?
>>>> -Would it be possible to implement a button to open the story in the
>>>> viewTemplate so that it appears below the List of tiddlers?
>>>>
>>>> and I encountered another issue:
>>>> Is it possible to rearrange the tiddlers by drag and drop like it was
>>>> with the rearrangeTiddlersPugin in TiddlyTools?
>>>> I think it might be better to post this as a new question.
>>>>
>>>> Cheerio and Thanks
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> Am 02.05.2016 um 23:12 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>>
>>>> The attached version will apply the excludeStory tiddlers before saving
>>>> the story in the list.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:20:06 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Thanks for the .json
>>>> The view-template works fine, it creates a neat row and tiddlers tagged
>>>> with excludeStory are not shown, but they are saved in the list and are
>>>> opened when you load the story.
>>>> For my purpose would be best to exclude them at once...
>>>> I understand that the Problem is in opening tiddlers contained in the
>>>> textfield if they are not properly aligned. In TWC the tiddlytools
>>>> StorySaverPlugin managed this...
>>>> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StorySaverPlugin
>>>> Yours Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff: Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins :
>>>> OpenStory/SaveStory
>>>> Datum: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> Von: 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Antwort an: tiddl...@googlegroups.com
>>>> An: TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> Here's a json with the updated save/show routines and with the
>>>> suggested view template. Be sure to back up before trying.
>>>>
>>>> I can imagine several ways in which this might not work as you wanted,
>>>> so you will need to specify how it is not working properly.
>>>>
>>>> It might be possible to create a wikified list with a javascript macro.
>>>> But I'm thinking that you want your users to edit that list in the text
>>>> editor. So that would take a second javascript macro to parse the human
>>>> readable list back into the kind of lists used to save stories. Have to
>>>> think about that.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> In general, I think TWC was favorable in many ways to TW5.
>>>> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 5:34:37 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>> Thanks for your help and sorry for not answering more quickly.
>>>> I did not know ther was so much difference between TWC and TW5.
>>>> I´ll have to do a lot of learning if i really change.
>>>> I could not get your solution to work properly.
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.04.2016 um 05:44 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at least it's not
>>>> mentioned in the docs.
>>>>
>>>> That's a plugin by Tobias.... $:/plugins/tobibeer/split
>>>>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/attach/25c4517a9fe38/Neustart.html?part=0.1.1&authuser=0>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And I don't think you can capture the nicely formatted list and tuck it
>>>> into a tiddler. It would be cool if you could.
>>>>
>>>> That's a pitty, in Tiddlytools for classic ther was a plugin called
>>>> "clickify" which did exactly this
>>>>
>>>> In TWC the solution was the following:
>>>> <<clickify newTiddler
>>>> label:"save story!" focus:title tag:snapshot
>>>> title:{{prompt('Please enter a name','')}}
>>>> text:{{
>>>> var out="";
>>>> story.forEachTiddler(function(t){
>>>> var tid=store.getTiddler(t);
>>>> if(tid&&!tid.isTagged("excludeStory"))
>>>> out+="[["+t+"]]\n";});
>>>> out += '\n' + store.getTiddlerText('openStoryTemplate') ##which
>>>> inserts the textfield of the Template and creates a button to open the
>>>> story##
>>>> out;
>>>> }}>>
>>>>
>>>> By the template this
>>>> <<openStory {{tiddler.title}}>>
>>>> was inserted into each created SnapshotTiddler to open the story
>>>> contained...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:10:30 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I think I would like to do a solution with a small detour:
>>>> 1. Create a ShadowTiddler called [[Snapshot]] which contains the Story
>>>> like this:
>>>> {{{[split:list{$:/StoryList!!list}]}}}
>>>> Question: How can I exclude the Tiddlers Tagged with excludeStory?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. How can set the value of
>>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=
>>>> tags="Snapshot">
>>>> to the clickyfied Text of [[Snapshot]]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks...
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.04.2016 um 04:15 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Technically, this modification of matebele's version does just what you
>>>> want:
>>>>
>>>> \define saveSnapshot()
>>>> <$button> Save Snapshot
>>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=
>>>> tags="Snapshot">
>>>> </$button>
>>>> \end
>>>>
>>>> \define showSnapshot()
>>>> <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$(snap)$}}>Show Snapshot<
>>>> /$button>
>>>> \end
>>>>
>>>> ;Show Snapshot
>>>>
>>>> <span title="Select a Snapshot"><$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots"
>>>> field="story-name" default='(none)'>
>>>> <$list filter="[tag[Snapshot]]" variable="currentIndex">
>>>> <option value=<<currentIndex>>><<currentIndex>></option>
>>>> </$list>
>>>> </$select></span>
>>>> <$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
>>>> <<showSnapshot>>
>>>> </$set>
>>>>
>>>> ;Save Snapshot
>>>>
>>>> <span title="Enter a Name"><$edit-text tiddler="$:/_snapshots"
>>>> field="story-name"/></span>
>>>> <$set name="snapshot" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
>>>> <<saveSnapshot >>
>>>> </$set>
>>>>
>>>> Be sure to back up before trying this! You will need to create an
>>>> additional tiddler $:/_snapshots.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm guessing that you won't like the way it works -- all the
>>>> tiddlers are listed one after another in a single line rather than in
>>>> list.
>>>> I imagine it will take a javáscript macro to be able to make it into a
>>>> standard list.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:24:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>> I am working on a collection of excercises for theatre-classes.
>>>> Tiddlers describing Exercises are combined for lessons vía stories.
>>>> Thus the stories - like shold be tagged to sort them and described
>>>> which aim shall be achieved.
>>>> The idea is to work together on this collection and to exchange
>>>> exercises and lessons. It is necessary to import just the new storytiddler
>>>> (and the tiddlers that don't exist yet, but that's another task) in order
>>>> not to make a mess.
>>>> If you are interested the in TWC version here it is(alas in german):
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/837chmzhxky7wjm/DS%20Arbeitsfassung.html?dl=0
>>>> If you type storydemo in the searchfield you see the kind of
>>>> storytiddler I would like to generate. This one was generated
>>>> automatically
>>>> which collects information from fields in the tiddlers of the story...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your interest
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.04.2016 um 22:06 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your
>>>> TW, can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and display a
>>>> particular story? How will having the list in a separate tiddler help you
>>>> share metadata?
>>>>
>>>> It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers but
>>>> the contents of the tiddlers as well -- basically an export.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mat,
>>>> thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all snapshots
>>>> are saved in one tiddler.
>>>> I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary
>>>> because I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want to be
>>>> able
>>>> to exchange these stories with other users of the Project.
>>>> Is it possible to change the code
>>>>
>>>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler,
>>>> (SaveStory)*
>>>>
>>>> \define saveSnapshot()
>>>> <$button
>>>> set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
>>>> setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
>>>> {{$:/core/images/done-button}}
>>>> Save</$button>
>>>> \end
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while
>>>> closing all others.(OpenStory)*
>>>>
>>>> \define loadSnapshot() <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list"
>>>> setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}> {{$:/core/images/right-arrow}}
>>>> Load</$button> \end
>>>>
>>>> -Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe matabeles/tobias' thing will help?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot
>>>>
>>>> <:-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would
>>>> need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would
>>>> need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows
>>>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new
>>>> Tiddler, and (SaveStory)*
>>>> * -to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while
>>>> closing all others. (OpenStory)*
>>>> I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Yours Jan
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