Ed & others, The 15,000 quoted NUMBER OF USERS is likely not the case. The number of TW users worldwide is likely far, FAR HIGHER. A lot of people are trialing/using tiddly-wiki straight out of the box. We know that because of the level of TiddlyFox downloads. Jeremy, I and SimonBeard cover some indicative stats starting here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/g_YeDXCvZGY.
The real figures are likely higher yet as there are other platforms and ways of using TW not accounted for. So, though the exact number of regular users is unknowable, its fairly clear, there is a large, largely silent, userbase. Best wishes Josiah On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:42:15 UTC+2, Ed wrote: > > Hi Dear All, > > A good manual in whatever form either a real book or a tiddlywiki is long > overdue. > Jeremy told us that there are about 15,000 users all over the globe. > That's zilch > considering the enourmous power that seems/is hidden in the software. > When I see what beautiful stuff some people can make; it's absolutely > amazing. > > That indeed IS one of the problems as people looking around to get more > out of > the plain vanilla tiddlywiki they have been using so far. They feel that > they are not > using it to its fuller potential and specific use cases they might have > could really > benefit from better understanding and better structured help. At present > most of the > available documentation is NOT very helpful. > > Take e.g. Tiddlywiki on node.js. The tiddler "Getting Starting - Node.js" > is very > helpful as it describes the process nicely step by step. Being an absolute > nitwit > as far as Node.je is concerned I managed to get the Tiddlywiki up and > running. > (Though, I would like to see, even here, a tiddler dealing with Windows, > one other > tiddler dealing with Mac stuff and third one explaining it to the > Linuxians) > > Ok, then you go to the tiddler "Using TiddlyWiki on Node.js", because you > want > to use it. Right? Does it help a beginner the way the other tiddler did? > No. > It does not help one bit. > > Initial documentation is easy, but the next step seems always not a step, > but a > bridge too far. That goes for most the documentation available. So when > somebody > writes a manual or chapters of a manual he/she should take care to proceed > in a > gradual way. > - Preferably at the beginning of any chapter some sort of entry level > should be described. > > The beauty of TiddlyWiki is so obvious to many of us that quite a number > of people > like to share what they make and I highly appreciate that, please believe > me, but at > the same time they create, being creative people, a problem, when the > tiddlywiki created > deviates much from the plainest vanilla tiddlywiki. > - So anything written for the TWManual should be a simply as possible. No > fancy colors, > no fancy layouts. Only the stuff that is really necessary for the specific > problem or use > case at hand should be included. > > Of course TiddlyWiki is very inviting. The technlogy begs to go ahead and > e.g transclude > from all over the place. The globe is our playground, isn't? But having > worked in publishing > I think differently. Any publisher can and will tell you that > - you really need (an) EDITOR(S) responsable for the total outlook and > writing style of the > (final)(emerging) product. It will be in English initially, so remember > that not all the potential > users have the same grasp of the language. I am myself not very happy with > my English. > We don't want to be stuck at 15,000 users, we want more, being the > evangelists we are. 8-)) > > - Obviously, the work on the manual should be done some place else. NOT > here in this group. > Uhoh... It's late here, gotta stop. My better half is pulling me away > from the keyboard. > Salut! Ed. > > > > > Op maandag 6 juni 2016 16:39:12 UTC+2 schreef madscijr: >> >> Just sayin'. I would find it useful, if only the way the Dummies books >> are structured. >> Maybe dedicate half the book to TW Classic and half to TW 5? >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/941a5fcc-4051-4104-981f-b430c952ce8e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
