Hi Jan Yet two my mind there is two missing features: >
I'd acknowledge the impact of the issues you mention, but fixing them is 1,000 times easier than introducing full support for slicing. > -When you discover that the content you wish to change was transcluded, it > takes some time to get to the real tiddler; in most cases I have to find > and open with the searchbar. > It would be practical if transclusions were clickable Links in the > edit-Mode. Could this be done with a template or plugin? > My favoured approach to fix this is to introduce a mode that makes transclusions visible, so that one can directly click on a link to open the target tiddler. > -It would be important to have better Security mechanisms against > destroying links. Especially renaming tiddlers can have dangerous effects. > It would be nice if users were shown a Modal informing about Links Lists > and Transclusions for which the Tiddker has importance.. > As discussed elsewhere, I'd favour support for automatically replacing references to a tiddler when it is renamed. Best wishes Jeremy. > > Regards Jan > > In TWClassic when changing the Name of a Tag-Tiddler i was asked wheter I > wished to change the tags to. > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> It’s clear that users want to be able to write/paste long passages of >> text into a tiddler and then individually address sections (or >> slices/chunks). In practice, I think that means that anything that one can >> presently do to an entire tiddler needs to be possible with a slice: >> transclusion, linking, searching, etc. >> >> That means that the system has to deal with two levels of granularity: >> slices and entire tiddlers. Internally, everywhere that we manipulate >> tiddlers we’d need to support slices too. >> >> In fact, slices would become the fundamental unit; an entire tiddler >> would be a special case of a slice covering the entire tiddler. >> >> That’s where things get interesting: now we’ve redefined a slice to be a >> tiddler (which is just what we call a fundamental discrete unit of content >> in TiddlyWiki). Now, for performance reasons, we’d want to avoid repeatedly >> scanning tiddlers to extract the slices; instead, we’d want to store the >> individual slices separately so that we can efficiently address them as >> needed. >> >> You can probably see where this goes: we’ve just ended up *renaming* >> “tiddlers” to “slices”, and adding facilities to deal with sequences of >> slices as discrete entities called “tiddlers”. >> >> That’s pretty much where we are today: it’s easy to combine several >> tiddlers to make them appear to be a single tiddler: we use transclusion, >> or macros based on transclusion like the TOC macro. >> >> We’ve still got the problem of dealing with long passages of text: that’s >> where the text-slicer plugin comes in, showing one way that these long >> texts can be split into chunks, and the chunks recombined in flexible ways. >> >> So, my position isn’t ideological, nor am I wilfully ignoring feedback >> from users. But I am asserting that from an engineering perspective it’s >> cleaner and more efficient to be dealing with a single fundamental entity, >> and to approach the original problem from the other end: by splitting and >> recombining. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> On 8 Jun 2016, at 14:27, Jed Carty <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am a bit stuck at the moment because while I don't want to discourage >> any exploration into different ways of using TiddlyWiki there is a TW5 way >> of doing what you are talking about, which is to use either more tiddlers >> or fields which you then place wherever you want them using transclusions. >> >> Using templates you could have the anchor tag part of the transclusion so >> you could navigate to a spot in an open tiddler. If you want to be able to >> both open a tiddler and navigate to some spot in that tiddler than we would >> need a more complex macro but it may be able to be done using only wikitext >> and simple html. 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