Hej Thomas, Hey Tobias (so happy to see you back here!)

>>it works DOM-oriented and thus – as for now – on a per tiddler base.
As far as I found out, your numbering counts through the storyriver, wich is fine for endnotes...

>>A generic query language that allows us to say something like:

 * from where I am, find the outer tiddler (identified somehow, e.g.
   "class > contains > tc-tiddler-frame")
 * return all parseTreeNodes of type *foo* where property *bar
   *contains *baz*

Mat has achieved what something like that in quite brute force way in the cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com. The problem ist that it has trouble dealing with Wiki-Code-Expressions, that is to say I have trouble doing this.
Perhaps it would be smarter to do something like that in js...

Jan






Am 28.08.2016 um 17:11 schrieb Thomas Elmiger:
Hej Jan,

I think I know where you are coming from (I read your thoughts here: http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/#TextStretch%20by%20Thomas%20Elminger) and I think it would be interesting to develop a concept for scientific documents authored using TW5.

Tobias points towards something that is critical for my CSS numbering solution: It is based on presentation and agnostic of content and structure. For scientific work I am afraid this is not enough. Important features of TiddlyWiki are transclusion, lists and filters … I think a scientific authoring tool should be able to deal with that. So a broader concept is needed. Let me explain some thoughts: In a perfect world, …

1. Authors would write chapters or sub-chapters as tiddlers and collect them in chapters and publications (books). A book usually is built up in a traditional structure like

  *     Title
  *     Contents Overview
  *     Foreword
  *     Chapter 1
      o     Sub-chapter 1.1
          +     and so on 1.1.1
              #     <<ref "see chapter 2.1">>
              #     term definition 1.1.1.1
  *     Chapter 2
      o     and so on 2.1
          +     reference to term definition 1.1.1.1: <<ref "{{term
            definition}}">>
  *     Conclusion
  *     Indexes


2. Publishers would ask for one document with all the content to reformat it for other publication channels like printed books, e-books and the like. What would this master document be? A story river?

3. Schools would possibly put the book on a server (in a DB like Danielo’s here <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/LyXt4oneBKI/FGbwFy2JBAAJ>? or in a TWederation Wiki?) where teachers/students can download/connect to it.

4. Teachers would collect chapters from several books as readings for their students. Can they use TW for this? How would this affect numbering of chapters and references?

5. Students would make their own annotations or cite excerpts in their own works.

A fool-proof authoring system would offer solutions and/or guidelines to use cases like these. To make a relevant contribution for scientific authors we should at least have a concept for 1. and 2. How should an author structure his/her work? What do we use single tiddlers for? How many levels of (nested) transclusion are acceptable? And so on …

Do you have a concept, Jan, or a real-world example wiki, we could use for this? It could be very helpful to develop and test even small contributions against such a reference project. 


Kind regards, 
Thomas


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