Hola Danielo -

As a newbie I am liable to write something that makes others roll their 
eyes or think "we all know that". Despite that...

TWEdit is for mobile - right? I find it nearly useless

TiddlyNotes - better except it doesn't work either

As Noted - based upon TW engine, better user interface, and tiddlers are 
broken out into a ton of little files

I am interested in an a similar application, personally.

JWHoneycutt

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 12:51:47 PM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is both a reflection, a touch of attention and a desperate call to 
> all the users that feels like me, if there is any.
>
> Three years ago when I first discovered tiddlywiki I found both, 
> TWClassing and TW5. I decided to go for TW5 because it looked much better 
> on my mobile, and that gave me a feeling of future-proof software. As 
> opposed to TWClassic, which remind me to the first mobile web experiences: 
> an unreadable bird view of a page that required to zoom and scroll all the 
> time. So, as I said, despite it's lacks and faults I go for tw 5.0.5
>
> After three years things haven't evolved for mobile users, or at least not 
> in the good way. The only community that grows is that one that doesn't 
> care about mobile, which is presumably the same that didn't care about it 
> on TWClassic before, but now on TW5. The only issues that are discussed and 
> the new features that are implemented doesn't care about mobile, it doesn't 
> matter, it is just take for granted, what we have is good enough. 
>
> I read this forum mostly from mobile, and when someone makes an 
> announcement, or posts a link to any new good stuff my first impression is 
> the one that I have from my phone. If I'm unable to use it comfortably on 
> mobile I usually close that tab and forget about it.
>
> In a world that is moving to "mobile first, forget about desktop focus on 
> mobile, mobile rules!" experiences, tiddlywiki community is moving on the 
> opposite direction. Twitter, Facebook and Github are examples of how doing 
> things well: If I add their page to my home screen I can't distinguish it 
> from a native app.
>
> Just to mention some examples, Jed Carty 
> <http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/> has a wiki that seems to hate mobile 
> screens, Mat's magic <http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#TWaddle:TWaddle> 
> seems to be restricted to desktop browsers, Cardo <http://cardo.wiki> 
> requires so much horizontal scroll that I forget about what was at the left 
> side when I reach the other side of the wiki. I fought to death with Felix 
> to convince him to provide an alternative way of displaying Tiddlymap's 
> graphs, because on his extra-extra wide screen it was just fine to put 
> everything on the sidebar. A couple of alerts is enough to fill the 
> entire screen <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1743>, 
> popups are used everywhere like they were a good idea, and the new search 
> mechanism on a popup is just *a bad joke*. Most of the users here don't 
> see any advantage on using NoteSelf because syncing an entire file of 
> *6MB* on their high bandwidth internet connections is not even 
> noticeable. And those are just some random examples on an entire sea of 
> issues for mobile users.
>
> I would ask to those tiddlywiki wizards that do not want to care about 
> mobile to totally disable their creations on mobile, because the lack of a 
> feature is better than a bad experience using it. Github for example 
> doesn't have all the features on their mobile version.
>
> Does anybody subscribe to any of the things that I said above? Am I the 
> only interested on using tiddlywiki on my mobile phone? I want to know this 
> because it maybe it will be easier to leave tiddlywiki and go with any of 
> the products that cares about mobile than fighting the entire community.
>
>

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