Hi. I admit to being a bit of a newby myself .... I am a unashamed fan of what has been accomplished by the creators of TW. I do use my mobile a LOT as I am not deskbound and it is my on-the-fly comms device, office repository, reference shelf, invoice book and transaction device..... Sure there are other options that provide slick mobile interface delivery that make TW5 on TWedit look sloppy ( sorry guys ) however the ABILITIES of TW5 are almost limitless for the operability it can provide - by allowing it to do almost whatever you want it to do ( with some constraints and annoyances. admittedly )
With TW, I lose nothing. I find required content near-immediately. It presents crazy diverse magic almost every day for me... *because it is endlessly useful to those who make it so.*Case in hand. A client who has engaged me to create an digital book of the "Warburton Trail" - an iconic bike / horse / walking track that winds its way for about 40km along the old rail track journey east of Melbourne, past vineyards, old pubs, bike-cafes, streams and rivers, orchards, small townships and more. His photography portrays not only the map of how to get the best out of a variety of ways to take this journey - but provides imagery of what you will see ( inbound or outbound ) so you get the most out of it. A book would struggle with that. What? Read it backwards for the return journey? No - merely reframe the navigation order and abilities of the tiddlers. Add a live map. ( TW can feed imagery, video, embeds of all types easily and allow for online magic ) Allow for live delivery of invitations of the cyclists, riders and walkers to join the varying produce, events, ciders, craft beers etc along the way on a very timely basis and very accessible. The idea of PRESENTING this to the client was done at the first appointment with thanks to TWedit on my ipad and iphone - both able to quickly demonstrate what CAN BE DONE... gig secured with an elated client. The point is.... find what you want it to do within its opportunities and limitations. I marvel at what TW has yet to be used for ...... My suggestion is to practice use of TWedit - -it works - and i am sure not just for me..... desktop is easier but annoying to carry around make the adjustments - you may find it worth it. cheers John On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 6:22:08 AM UTC+10, JWHoneycutt wrote: > > Hola Danielo - > > As a newbie I am liable to write something that makes others roll their > eyes or think "we all know that". Despite that... > > TWEdit is for mobile - right? I find it nearly useless > > TiddlyNotes - better except it doesn't work either > > As Noted - based upon TW engine, better user interface, and tiddlers are > broken out into a ton of little files > > I am interested in an a similar application, personally. > > JWHoneycutt > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 12:51:47 PM UTC-4, Danielo RodrÃguez > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> This is both a reflection, a touch of attention and a desperate call to >> all the users that feels like me, if there is any. >> >> Three years ago when I first discovered tiddlywiki I found both, >> TWClassing and TW5. I decided to go for TW5 because it looked much better >> on my mobile, and that gave me a feeling of future-proof software. As >> opposed to TWClassic, which remind me to the first mobile web experiences: >> an unreadable bird view of a page that required to zoom and scroll all the >> time. So, as I said, despite it's lacks and faults I go for tw 5.0.5 >> >> After three years things haven't evolved for mobile users, or at least >> not in the good way. The only community that grows is that one that doesn't >> care about mobile, which is presumably the same that didn't care about it >> on TWClassic before, but now on TW5. The only issues that are discussed and >> the new features that are implemented doesn't care about mobile, it doesn't >> matter, it is just take for granted, what we have is good enough. >> >> I read this forum mostly from mobile, and when someone makes an >> announcement, or posts a link to any new good stuff my first impression is >> the one that I have from my phone. If I'm unable to use it comfortably on >> mobile I usually close that tab and forget about it. >> >> In a world that is moving to "mobile first, forget about desktop focus on >> mobile, mobile rules!" experiences, tiddlywiki community is moving on the >> opposite direction. Twitter, Facebook and Github are examples of how doing >> things well: If I add their page to my home screen I can't distinguish it >> from a native app. >> >> Just to mention some examples, Jed Carty >> <http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/> has a wiki that seems to hate mobile >> screens, Mat's magic <http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#TWaddle:TWaddle> >> seems to be restricted to desktop browsers, Cardo <http://cardo.wiki> >> requires so much horizontal scroll that I forget about what was at the left >> side when I reach the other side of the wiki. I fought to death with Felix >> to convince him to provide an alternative way of displaying Tiddlymap's >> graphs, because on his extra-extra wide screen it was just fine to put >> everything on the sidebar. A couple of alerts is enough to fill the >> entire screen <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1743>, >> popups are used everywhere like they were a good idea, and the new search >> mechanism on a popup is just *a bad joke*. Most of the users here don't >> see any advantage on using NoteSelf because syncing an entire file of >> *6MB* on their high bandwidth internet connections is not even >> noticeable. And those are just some random examples on an entire sea of >> issues for mobile users. >> >> I would ask to those tiddlywiki wizards that do not want to care about >> mobile to totally disable their creations on mobile, because the lack of a >> feature is better than a bad experience using it. Github for example >> doesn't have all the features on their mobile version. >> >> Does anybody subscribe to any of the things that I said above? Am I the >> only interested on using tiddlywiki on my mobile phone? I want to know this >> because it maybe it will be easier to leave tiddlywiki and go with any of >> the products that cares about mobile than fighting the entire community. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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