BJ - Hi

Man, you have almost got what I need !!!
I understand it's a quick mock-up that you have created 
and I am appreciative of the effort 
( and I understand it is incomplete - 

   - I guess that the other tiddlers such as "Introduction Video" would 
   have NO editable / clickable top icons ( unlike it currently displays )
   - and that would also apply to $:/snippets/themeswitcher

For my purposes ( mainly being read on MOBILE devices - there is NO need 
for the sidebar, so other functionality would be provided similar to what 
was delivered on the Spiritual Quest eBook ( did you get a copy of that ? )

I agree that removal of the un-necessary buttons etc is probably cleaner - 
though my coming limitations keep me restricted to the ReadOnly plugin - 
which has served me well and keep time on project minimal.

I AM VERY KEEN TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE in the upcoming days!!!

Whilst a native TW solution is best -  the other options I have been 
working with are looking promising as an option
and I would be keen to hear your thoughts - 

HOWEVER : first I will propose the scenario ........

*TW eBook / app * ( 

   - standalone html file - 
   - all inclusive viewable on most browsers
   - some content ( that needs to be time-relevant - eg events/ venue 
   updates - are internet-fed and delivered as embeds )

next - the product :

   - is NOT a novel - assume that it is a "*reference*" work - ( my current 
*Tourism 
   Directory* project will suffice )
   -  --- accommodation | wineries | attractions | dining | Relaxation | 
   sports | tours | breweries | retailing etc
   - This requires the use of tags and workable navigation options ( 
   WITHOUT the reader access to a sidebar )
   -  --- tags to provide LISTS of same groupings ( as above and by 
   location | other categoies : Eat | Drink | Stay | Play | etc 
   - so far - all covered really well......

NEXT - a good marketing tools needs a way for future customers to add 
notes/dates into Journals / Notepads ( as would other books that create 
ideas and challenges etc ) - and theres plenty of opportunity for the user 
/ reader / tourist to initiate interaction or bookings with listed clients.

   - Other chapters ( / tiddlers / pages ) within the *Tourism Directory* can 
   be created specifically for the Reader for Notes
   - These would likely be located at the beginning or end of each chapter 
   as reference points for their notes
   - These Notes Pages would have links to them in the Directory Listings
   - These Notes Pages should be UNIQUE, PRIVATE notes that the reader can *add 
   to - edit and delete - AND SAVE *as neccesary
   - As the primary device WILL be mobile phones the interface needs to be 
   clean - as a fresh tidder is !
   - App interaction suddenly becomes a great tool - IF IT SUITS THE USER 
   -  ---- some will be comfortable and want to use apps ( eg evernote | 
   penzu | "pen.io" etc ) some will as the notes taken in-app can appear in 
   their TW pages !
   -  ------- these would be embeds - all tested so far are editable on 
   desktop / mobile app / embed within tiddler ....
   -  ---- some will not - and an editable Tiddler woudl be the alternative.

That is likely FAR MORE info than you would like - but I am "in the groove" 
with this as it grows more attractive and desirable by the day !!!!

Let's keep in touch 
you have my details ?
if not - connect via @magillamax on tw and I'll get my other connection 
details to you ( if you are OK with that )

Obviously most of what I learn through development of this and other TW 
instances for public consumption will be shared around......

cheers and thanks again.....
JN


On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 7:10:24 PM UTC+11, BJ wrote:
>
> One of my plugins could be used for this, it allow tiddlers to have an 
> 'application type' and has methods to provide custom edit and view 
> templates for the different applications. I have put a demo here: 
> http://editablereadonly.tiddlyspot.com/
> I am modifying this at the moment so it will not be ready for release for 
> a couple of days.
>
> I would say that I am not in favor of hiding stuff with styles (like with 
> the read only theme). I prefer to remove the tags from the buttons and 
> other components that are not to be displayed. 
>
> All the best
>
> BJ
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 10:25:05 AM UTC+1, John Newell wrote:
>>
>> Is this possible?
>>
>> A single ( or multiple ) tiddlers that can be used by the reader to take 
>> notes .....
>> in a tiddlywiki file that has had ReadOnly applied to it ?
>>
>> No sidebar - just a unique tiddler* that has the edit and save ability 
>> active in a normal tiddywiki.
>>
>> ( * or multiple tiddlers )
>>
>> with thanks
>> John
>>
>>

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