Hi David, Just want to be sure you saw that the latest pre-release has a preliminary bibtex plugin that imports a bib file and puts each reference into a tiddler; the bibtex id becomes the tiddler name. I'm working on macros to allow referencing of citations within tiddlers, and generation of a reference list for the entire wiki.
I agree with you that this isn't ideal, as it requires you to import the bib file into each wiki, and to re-import it each time it changes. I believe the re-import issue can be solved in node-js but am not 100% sure. At any rate -- this is a huge advance, and puts is a big step closer to having a serious bibliographic management system that interacts with TW. //steve. On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 12:05:19 AM UTC-4, David Myers wrote: > > Steve, > > Using Jed's citation library worked very well for my immediate > requirements. > > The only gripe I have is that it creates multiple tiddlers for each > reference (never got around to figuring out what exactly was going on under > the hood), which made things a tad confusing. > > In hindsight this would be best used with the 'server' version of TW (ie > using nodeJS), then with each reference in a separate tiddler file they > would be more easily updated, usefull if you use are researching across the > web, as you can then use zotero to collect the data and export to bibref, > then import (for jed's library this means 'copy/paste') into TW worked > rather well ~ I assume this could be easily automated as Zotero and BibTex > format can be easily exported to XML, which could then be parsed using JS > into the required 'citation library' fields. > > The reason for using the nodeJS is that this would mean you only need to > update a single file and it would be available to all your TW wikis > simultaneously, otherwise you store a single file html of just the > references and import this flat TW into your other TWs on each update, > hence node in this instance would make for an easier workflow (and reduce > out of data tw files on your pc / web page). > > For me however I appreciate being able to keep my TW files as a single > self contained html+JS file, which ca be done exporting a nodeJS TW to a > 'normal' TW (although there currently seem no good solution for attached > image files ~ see > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/od-d1E9uPQM) or again > you can create a static page > http://tiddlywiki.com/static/Generating%2520Static%2520Sites%2520with%2520TiddlyWiki.html > . > The problem seems to reside in links to the attached images / files etc, > but I guess your could always do a wget on the pages (which seems to pull > everything from a site !). > > David > > > On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:37:51 PM UTC+4, stevesuny wrote: >> >> Hi David, searching around for ways to integrate some bibliographic >> system (Bibtex is preference) with TW5 --- came across this thread. Have >> you made any progress using JabRef? Seems to me that a custom layout would >> allow an entire JabRef dbase to be integrated into TW -- perhaps using the >> Bibekey as the tiddler title? And perhaps adding some custom fields in >> JabRef as tags? >> >> Thanks, >> >> //steve. >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 9:06:21 AM UTC-4, David Myers wrote: >>> >>> Jed, >>> >>> I currently use JabRef for my bibliography, and one of the tabs in the >>> panel gives access to the complete BibTex entry ~ including abstract and >>> any other info I may have added (such as keywords, cross references). >>> >>> If you do intend to work on your plugin in the future, I will be happy >>> to help test is out. >>> >>> I can be both a bit of a nerd, and rather stupid ~ occasionally >>> simultaneously ;) ~ this means I have a the inability of a complete newb >>> (such as how to install stuff or call a macro), but an idea of how to >>> troubleshoot. >>> >>> If you do think to make some advances on your plugin here is what I >>> think it may be missing. >>> >>> import from bibtex format - >>> most bibliography software has an option to export the info into a >>> single bibtex file (or .bib), JabRef gives other options for HTML tabular >>> output, or XML also. >>> >>> In fact with my current project I may need to work on an XML to Json >>> converter... >>> >>> I don't know how easyily I could write this in js ?? I guess I could >>> have a bash at it ! >>> >>> Referencing method >>> This could probably use a macro with some form of transclusion. >>> >>> What would work really well would be placing all the references in their >>> own sepratare tiddlers (as you do now) and having them in a tab on the side >>> bar (bit like a TOC), and a copy of the required macro call to use as the >>> reference (this part I may be able to do ?). >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Jed Carty <inmy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> At the moment there isn't any way to copy in multiple bibtex citations >>>> at once. You have to do them individually under the 'Add Citation' tab. >>>> Give it a title, copy the abstract (if you have one) into the top text box >>>> and the bibtex into the bottom box. I have just been using it to >>>> automatically building .bib files so I can easily add or remove >>>> references. >>>> >>>> I have had some troubles recently and haven't had much time to work on >>>> tiddlywiki. At the moment there is absolutely no manipulation of the data >>>> in the citation. So what you paste in is what you get, there are no >>>> formatted in-line citations. Adding a macro that lets you insert >>>> expandable >>>> bibtex citations into a tiddler would be a good addition to the plugin. I >>>> know a lot more about both tiddlywiki and javascript now than I did when I >>>> made the plugin so this may get a complete rewrite that lets it put in >>>> properly formatted citations. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/yjMtc0OmOmQ/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/993867af-13ab-40d7-a808-2531539a3d99%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/993867af-13ab-40d7-a808-2531539a3d99%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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