> Heh, a funny thing happened: To try out installing a plugin, I installed > the plugin "Documentation from tiddlywiki.com". If I understand, this > overwrites both the Default tiddlers and the GettingStarted tiddler... > which means I can then not re-access the Noteself GettingStarted tiddler! >
Never though about that! To be honest, I don't find the documentation plugin of any help. But, I think it is a tiddlywiki limitation that you have to overrride the getting started plugin. Ideally you should be able to just add things to it. Sadly, If you install another plugin that overrides one of my plugins tiddlers there is not much I can do. But, in any case, what are you missing from that tiddler? Once you have your wiki configured you don't need it anymore. > The Revisions feature in GettingStarted also does not show anything. Had > to uninstall the docs plugin to access the NoteSelf GettingStarted again. > > Do you mean that you have clicked the revisions button of that tiddler? That is normal, you are not creating a new version of that tiddler, you are just showing a different one. > In fiddling with the above, I clicked the site subtitle which opens the > Ctrlpanel>TiddlyPouch>Database. > IMO the tab label should be "NoteSelf" instead of "TiddlyPouch" - I don't > want to have to learn more terminology/names and the tab content is only(?) > relevant for the NoteSelf context anyway. > That tab is from the TiddlyPouch plugin, which operates under NoteSelf edition. I admit that it could be confusing. One solution would be to create a NoteSelf customization plugin that overrides those details. > There the overlapping info in > > GettingStarted > Ctrlpanel>TiddlyPouch>Database > Ctrlpanel>Info>Basics > > ...this is a bit confusing, mostly because the same info is presented > differently. > Well, GettingStarted and Ctrlpanel>Info>Basics overlaps even on the default edition of tiddlywiki. GettingStarted is not intended to be accessed frequently, but to provide a friendly welcome to the user. That's why it overlaps with some other tiddlers. But overlapping only occurs between GettingStarted and the other two, because they do not overlap between each other. > > Actually, as an end user, where the data is stored even more belongs under > the Ctrlpanel>Savings tab. > Yes. I should override that tab. I think I discarded that idea long long time ago, while my intention was to allow TiddlyPouch live in a regular Tiddlywiki edition, but that goal is farther each day. In GettingStarted it says > > You can have as many notebooks as you want. Just change the Notebook Name , >> save and reload. > > > This triggers the "download, save to local drive" process which does not > seem correct - or? I was hoping it would just magically create and save to > a new browser db. This does not work for me in chrome nor FF. (Win10.) > You're right, it is confusing. Well, to be honest, it is confusing for the experienced tiddlywiki user, because you know where the save button is located. If you look closely, there is a button that reads: "save config" Once you hit that button, the rest happens automatically. I think I should be even clearer and say click Save Config button and that's all. I feel that instructions are from earlier stages of development. ...actually, how is it even possible for the system to know if clicking > standard save button should mean create a new selfnote db or download local > copy (or even upload to a tiddlyspot if such data is filled in)? > Yes too many moving parts. The system does not know nothing about uploading to tiddlyspot, I should remove those references from standard TW. If you click "Save Config" then the system is notified and it knows what to do. If you click the regular save button you will get a database export in JSON format, some kind of backup/export facility. > ... > > E.g for FAQ: > What "browser stuff" (cache, cookies, history...) is safe to clear out > without affecting my NoteSelf data? > What about browser "Incognito mode". > Good points, should be added to the FAQ > Taking a step back to evaluate the situation, I realize that I have some > hesitation with using SelfNote because a lot still seems so magical. > I understand how do you feel. Many times it feels magical even to me. Not to mention that TiddlyWiki itself is pure magic... > > I see super potential in this tho. > > <:-) > As usual, thank you for your great feedback Mat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/10e48c79-cf4e-46b0-a071-37f9d19bbbba%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
