No Dropbox (it's blocked at the firewall, as is some of Google and many of the more popular consumer cloud storage offerings). I can technically get to OneDrive but I'm only allowed to use the work provided account. They get grouchy if you use your own.
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:28:38 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > Lost Admin, > Would you consider possibly hosting your work TiddlyWikis on Dropbox and > accessing them through the browser this way? Or are you not allowed to for > some reason? > Thanks, > -Arlen > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arlen Beiler <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I think you may have mentioned this before. This is what I was thinking >> of when I wrote the above. Did you try installing TiddlyChrome at all? >> >> I would also be interested to hear if there are others in this situation >> and what you are able to do about it. >> >> Mark S, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on what I proposed in >> my last email as well. It is becoming harder and harder for browser >> extensions and apps to do anything with the file system, so we will have to >> see what becomes of TiddlyChrome. But running a localhost portable server >> (not TiddlyWiki on Node, but a custom server) would easily get around that >> problem. And it could work for most situations. But I would love to hear >> your thoughts. >> >> Thanks, >> -Arlen >> >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Lost Admin <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> In the extremely locked down corporate environment I work in, TiddlyWiki >>> itself is technically okay because it is 'just an html file'. Node.js >>> (node.exe) is not okay because it's not on the approved application list. >>> Firefox is not okay unless there is a good business need for it (basically >>> only the app testing folks and devs get it to make sure the web apps work >>> for customers). Chrome (and IE) are pre-installed on the locked down >>> desktop image. >>> >>> Interestingly, Chrome Extensions from the chrome store are okay (at >>> least the hey-you-were-naughty warning tool didn't yell at me). But google >>> docs and gmail aren't okay. >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 12:26:13 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, what if I would write a new script for node that would basically be >>>> a static file server? When you type in localhost it would show you a list >>>> of directories to choose from. Once you open one of those directories it >>>> would show you all the files and folders in it and allow you to open any >>>> one that you wanted. Now if you opened a TiddlyWiki Five file, it would >>>> detect that and load a helper file that would pose as the TiddlyFox plugin >>>> and send the saved file back to the server. The server would save this >>>> file >>>> into the directory and even save a backup in some place of your choosing. >>>> >>>> In order to use NodeJS on Windows you have to be able to execute the >>>> node.exe file that you can download from nodejs.org. It is not an >>>> installation, it is the actual node executable. I don't know how other >>>> operating systems are but they should be similar (well, maybe not MAC, I >>>> don't know). But don't most computers run windows? 50% run windows 7 and >>>> like another almost 40% run windows 10 if I remember right. In a corporate >>>> environment you may not be able to always do this because of extremely >>>> locked down environments, but it doesn't require any installation or >>>> administrator password. In a corporate environment where you cannot do >>>> that, I don't know if you would be allowed to install TiddlyChrome or >>>> TiddlyFox plugins either. So we fall back to IE, which I am not familiar >>>> with, but there again you may not be able to do much in extremely >>>> restricted corporate environments. >>>> >>>> As far as doing this on mobile, it would be a lot easier to make an app >>>> that can do this than it is for desktop browsers. Please check out >>>> AndTidWiki if you're interested. >>>> >>>> Would that be an option? >>>> >>>> The charm of a single-file, no-install, runs-everywhere solution would >>>>> be gone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Is this single-file, no-install, runs-everywhere solution available in >>>> the extremely restricted corporate environments that I am describing? You >>>> still have read-everywhere, and you still have the download saver most >>>> times. >>>> >>>> Thoughts, >>>> -Arlen >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:26:24 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> TW on node.js doesn't serve images. The fact that node.js can serve >>>>>> images is totally irrelevant until someone writes a version of TW on >>>>>> node.js that does. >>>>>> >>>>>> The thing is, if you start having to run a server, you no longer have >>>>>> a simple solution. In fact, you could run any of a half dozen wikis or >>>>>> content managers which would all have true databases and virtually >>>>>> unlimited size allowances. The charm of a single-file, no-install, >>>>>> runs-everywhere solution would be gone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:59:25 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Node serves images. Chrome apps might be able to as well if done >>>>>>> right, but never tried. Any server-type solution will be able to serve >>>>>>> images. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:49 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Much of the world spends their computing times on tablets and smart >>>>>>>> phones. Some models can run a terminal (mine can't) if you want to >>>>>>>> spend a >>>>>>>> lot of time fiddling with that sort of thing -- but by then you no >>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>> have a simple, easy to use turnkey solution. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It still doesn't address the images problem which is a non-starter >>>>>>>> for me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is true, but on windows it is very easy to run a portable >>>>>>>>> version, and may be on Linux as well, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> covers most of our users, though I realize it doesn't cover everyone. >>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>> isn't that already a problem with TiddlyFox and TiddlyChrome? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:14 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If TW on node.js served up images and other files, that might be >>>>>>>>>> almost acceptable. Of course, you would still have problems when >>>>>>>>>> away from >>>>>>>>>> your home node.js server. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:39:49 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If someone knew how to do it, they would have. My TiddlyChrome >>>>>>>>>>> plugin is the easiest way that I know of for Google Chrome. One >>>>>>>>>>> thing I >>>>>>>>>>> have not explored is whether I can have the user select a folder >>>>>>>>>>> and then >>>>>>>>>>> edit any file in that folder. Other than that (which is a good >>>>>>>>>>> option) I >>>>>>>>>>> don't know of any way to save in Chrome. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, "Never say it can't be done. Someone might actually >>>>>>>>>>> believe you." This is so true when it comes to technology. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now the best option I see outside of chrome would be to run a >>>>>>>>>>> node store.js file in a certain folder and it would serve that >>>>>>>>>>> folder on >>>>>>>>>>> localhost and allow saving. That would work in any browser and >>>>>>>>>>> would work >>>>>>>>>>> fine in a localhost or local network environment. I haven't taken >>>>>>>>>>> the time >>>>>>>>>>> to put that together yet, but it is very possible. It would work >>>>>>>>>>> identical >>>>>>>>>>> to how my current https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ works, >>>>>>>>>>> possibly and could also be configured to do automatic backups. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Those are my thoughts. >>>>>>>>>>> -Arlen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never say it can't be done. Someone might actually believe you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:04 PM, @TiddlyTweeter < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox looks like its chosen to die for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Its userbase is shrinking month by month. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Its ALREADY a minority report. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In November this year its goes over to WebExtensions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> By that time how will it differ from Chrome with market share >>>>>>>>>>>> already? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would it be best if TiddlyWiki could have an OFFICIAL add-on to >>>>>>>>>>>> save to at least one browser easily? 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