Thanks so much for the update and for warning.

Lets hope they can recognize how important local file save is for us, to me 
jepoardising this stops the browser being the "universal client" is should 
be.

On the security issue they may want to cover surely nominating exceptions 
in a specific browser install, to specific files, using a specific add on 
is security enough?

If you know a channel through which to protest. or lodge a concern please 
let us know, I expect we can mount a concerted effort.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 7:00:02 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Firefox over the next few months is rolling out a series of radical 
> changes that will mean, by the release of Standard Firefox 57 (November 
> 2017), TiddlyFox will no longer work, *not even signed versions*. Only 
> "WebExtensions" will work, and TiddlyFox is not one of them.
>
> *My opinion is the BEST BET to prolong your ability to save via TiddlyFox 
> on desktops is to switch over to FirefoxESR.*
>
> FirefoxESR is currently in version 52 and *will stay in major version 52 
> until at least March 2018*. The FirefoxESR version will install add-ons, 
> including "unsigned" versions, like the latest TiddlyFox. In order to do 
> this ...
>
> 1 - Freshly install FirefoxESR*. Copy over any profiles from your other 
> Firefox install you want to keep. (Note, Android O/S is not supported, 
> FirefoxESR is mainly aimed at desktop users)
>
> 2 - Start FirefoxESR. Go to "about:config" via the address bar. Click "I 
> accept the risk!"
>
> 3 - Navigate to ...
>
> xpinstall.signatures.required
>
> ... Click it till the value changes from "true" to "false". Close the 
> tab/window. 
>
> Now you will then be able to (a) install "unsigned" add-ons; (b) and 
> continue to be able to use TiddlyFox beyond November 2017.
>
> *Sources ...*
>
> Normal FirefoxESR: 
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
>
> Portable Apps version of FirefoxESR: 
> https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-esrr
>
> TiddlyFox latest (2.0.2 prerelease), unsigned: 
> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlywiki.xpi 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FTiddlyWiki%2FTiddlyFox%2Fraw%2Fmaster%2Ftiddlywiki.xpi&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFly1kt0MLyF8v54wl9MZRwPrSwzQ>
>
> *Why Best Bet? ...*
>
> IMO, FirefoxESR is now preferable to FirefoxDeveloper for TiddlyWikiers as 
> the developer version is on the bleeding edge of the changes and you will 
> likely encounter other issues with it. 
>
> Firefox ESR lags behind other Firefox developments but gets security 
> updates, I think its the best all round choice in the current situation for 
> the least hassle running TiddlyWiki for 10 months or so yet.
>
>
>
> *Background Comments ...*There is a lot of controversy & disagreements in 
> the Mozilla community about the direction that Firefox has committed to. 
> Many argue, very reasonably, that in going the direction it is it is 
> committing suicide because the result will be that all that is distinctive 
> about Firefox (vast numbers of sophisticated extensions) will be lost. So 
> there will be no real reason left to use it. Its userbase has already 
> shrunk dramatically. 
>
> It not just TiddlyWiki that is affected by the changes, it impacts a whole 
> swathe of brilliant add-ons that rely on file-saving. In many cases because 
> these "apps" (unlike TiddlyWiki) are implemented solely as add-ons, their 
> developers have already stopped work on them as the "WebExtensions" API has 
> has no simple methods to directly save to file.
>
> It may be that Firefox will yet extent the API in the way that would be 
> needed, but the Mozilla discussions I looked at it about are all pretty 
> much not going anywhere soon.
>
>
>

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