Heyo. In midst of vacation here but can't resist popping by the tiddly party.
Is ANYONE getting paid here? > Paid for what? Paid by whom? Are you asking if there's anyone selling services, to "the real world", that involve TW? Jeremy is a professional JS developer (maybe I'm using the wrong label here) and I know he tries to involve TW when possible, of course. (We probably have much to thank for this as it gives him opportunity to create TW stuff while getting paid.) Commercially, fellow member Siniy-Kit has his webshop fully built in TW, which I guess can be seen as "getting paid" in some sense. The thing otherwise is that "getting paid" typically requires *selling*. So, the question is probably better phrased as; "Is anyone here *selling* their TW services/competence and/or any product/service made in TW?" It is probably a tough *competence* to sell. Ain't nobody asking for something specifically built in TW, at least not outside of the community. Occasionally there is someone asking for help here and who expresses willingness to pay. Using TW as a *solution* to some customer need may be another game. Not always necessary to involve the customer in what exact technology is used to build whatever is needed. But because of TWs limitations, it is probably restricted to small scale endeavors. Then there's perhaps the most interesting area: Turning some TW based implementation into a commercial product/service. Like an "app". So far I know of no such case. It would be fantastic if TW could be used for this. One problem is that TW is optimized to be the "LEGO kit" that it is - not optimized to be "product X" or "service Y". Take any of the cool plugins or editions... and it would likely be a "better performing" product if it was created from scratch in "real" code (JS or something else) without consideration for everything else that TW is supposed to be able to do. Specialized products or services probably also can't take full advantage of TWs fantastic UI. The extreme dynamism of TW is in conflict with the specialization of applications. Given the extreme competitiveness on the "app markets", specialization and optimal performance is key, as far as I understand. ...buuut, just maybe I am too pessimistic: A main point with e.g WordPress is its modular structure. A general core + a zillion (commercial!) plugins, themes etc. Actually, I think the difficulty in commercializing anything in TW comes back to our favourite topic: We don't have the infrastructure for it. Not only do we not have an "app store" but we don't even have a central place for our existing plugins. And our development process is severely "bottlenecked". I would think e.g WP and most other commercially successful projects, or just well known projects for that matter, have a different organization. Like you, I think the TW project is missing out on tremendous opportunities. The saddest part is thinking about all those developers who would love TW and thrive here but who don't simply because they don't know the project exists because "marketing" is a non-issue here. ... <:-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ba8b62fc-b7d3-49ec-a60b-be6725362b01%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
