Ciao Mat e tutti,

TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Is ANYONE getting paid here?
>>
>  
Mat replied:

> Paid for what? Paid by whom? Are you asking if there's anyone selling 
> services, to "the real world", that involve TW? 
>

No. Because they'd already be stepping towards Zone 3 & don't need help. 
 

> Jeremy is a professional JS developer (maybe I'm using the wrong label 
> here) and I know he tries to involve TW when possible, of course. (We 
> probably have much to thank for this as it gives him opportunity to create 
> TW stuff while getting paid.)
>

Very much so. He's fully in Zone 3.
 

> Commercially, fellow member Siniy-Kit has his webshop fully built in TW, 
> which I guess can be seen as "getting paid" in some sense.
>

That's a great commercial success with Tupperware, flowers and other stuff. 
He's well in Zone 3.
  

> The thing otherwise is that "getting paid" typically requires *selling*. 
> So, the question is probably better phrased as; "Is anyone here *selling* 
> their TW services/competence and/or any product/service made in TW?"
>

I probably phrased my question incorrectly. It wasn't about Zone 3.

*It was about Zones 2 and 1.*

Zone 2 is not commercial. Its about supporting essential ENABLEMENT 
developments. Come next June Arlen's TiddlyServer may be a big part of the 
TW functional map. Arlen is bold enough to request donations. Money well 
sent, IMO. 

     *Donate to Arlen here*: PAYPAL - ARLEN <https://www.paypal.me/Arlen22>. 


You could, of course, push him to into Zone 3 by ignoring Zone 2, which 
would mean easy use of TW at NO cost would end as access to free saving 
that would need to be paid for. Arlen could charge you per save if he 
wanted.

*Maybe no one yet is fully realising that simple file saving in Firefox and 
Chrome will END as things stand. IMO it would be best to financially 
SUPPORT workable alternatives using Zone 2-ers.*

Giving to Zone 2 makes sense. (a) its FOR something concrete & important; 
(b) it helps cement a relationship so that the recipient wants to deliver 
because they feel materially valued  for the work they do. 

You can always ask me about what is Zone 1? ... since you are probably in 
it :-).

Best wishes
Happy holidays
Josiah

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