On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 8:13:21 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Why not promote Posts in the current groups whose titles are prefixes 
> [announcement]  or [Plugin] ?
>
> It is easy to search a group for such strings, 
>

It's easy to search, agreed.  But the results from what you're suggesting 
are unsuccessful at worst, vague at best.  People don't use consistent 
phrasing to make announcements (nor would I expect them to).  Just to be 
sure, I checked:  There are instances of "Announcing", "Presenting" and 
(most vague) "Plugin" (which could be talk about the plugin, not an 
announcement).

In addition, part of the problem is not knowing how to search for something 
that solves <insert complex solution text here> - you don't know in advance 
*what* text might hit the plugin on the nose.  My idea has this covered -- 
ask a question here in the chat group, and one of us suggests a 
plugin/bundle/whatever in the plugin group.

 

> and most of the plugins I know about were found in this group, 
>

me too. But, key point:  

*where are the plugins you DON'T know about?*To be sure to know about all 
of them, it requires 


   - either staying in touch with the group (at least weekly, if not more 
   often) but I don't expect most "average" users would be willing to do that, 
   or...
   - searching this group, which, as I've intimated, is too hit-and-miss

 
My idea is a separate group.  When Joe newbie shows up here and asks "Is 
there a way to do X", someone here posts a link to the relevant 
announcement thread on the plugin group.  *That* is easy.  Once there, they 
can search for more/other plugins or just read the posts. *That* is easy, 
too -- very possibly thinking "wow, this is cool - so organised too!"  At 
least, that's my hope.


so we need to maintain access to the history. If you find a plugin in the 
> current groups you may be able to create a new post [plugin] plugin name 
> function with a link to a previous post.
>
> If we can build an index (using search) within the group to plugin 
> references then we can at least find them, and when we decide on a 
> repository, registry or library of plugins we can harvest the details from 
> the group to start.
>
>
While that would work, I think that represents more work.  Maintenance is a 
thankless task most likely to suffer from entropy. The path of least 
resistance is best.  I'm not sure my idea is the best path, yet -- that 
remains to be seen. 
 

> I am prepared to build and host such a registry but it must openly allow 
> plugin authors and enthusiasts to add and edit it with us all chipping in. 
> It also must take account of the existing helpful repositories or plugin 
> sets documented by those who have already put some effort into this. This 
> means it naturally needs to be a tiddlywiki itself in my view.
>
>
That's admirable.  Really.  However, as much as I dislike goolag groups, it 
is and is likely to remain, "always around".  Again, path of least 
resistance...

Thanks for the input, it's very valuable.  At the very least, it helps me 
consolidate my thinking.
 
Coda

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