Hi Tony, To respond to your question I missed from last week, nope I'm not in Sydney. I live in Texas in the US, I just find myself motivated at odd hours sometimes. :)
It will be perfectly safe to upgrade to version 1, you might just end up with some abandoned tiddlers that store some of the temporary state. I'll post some basic instruction to help you find them and remove them manually. I see now that the "shorttext" field is displaying differently in the card view than it is in the main tiddler view. Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't realized that it was happening. I'm not 100% sure what the best thing is to do here, so let me ramble through some thoughts and let me know what you think about it. My original intent with "shorttext" is for it to only contain plain text content. I may be using it for a variety of other purposes in the future, like to show up in my own versions of the list-links macro the way the "caption" field already does, as well as other possible projects for example take a look at this proof of concept for a Workflowy / Checkvist style interface <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-nn-plugin/> that I experimented with when I started working on blc. It would be nice for it to have basic styling like bold and italics, but it wouldn't make sense for things like images or header styled text to show up there. Another issue is that you really shouldn't use multiple lines in "shorttext". The main "text" is stored differently than all the other fields in a tiddler. In html, the "text" field is the content in a div tag, and the other fields are saved as attributes on that tag. It *works* to save newlines in html attributes but it is a pretty weird thing to do. Also in the ".tid" export format the fields are stored at the beginning of the file, and the "text" content doesn't have any syntax to signal that it starts, when the fields end there's one line of space and absolutely anything that comes after that is considered the "text". If the "shorttext" field ends up being the last field that gets saved in that list, and it has a line of space, the rest of the field will get mistaken for part of the "text" body when it gets imported. So all of that is just to say that keeping the "shorttext" field as plain text only will discourage users from typing multiple paragraphs thinking it works the same way as "text". I could prevent users from typing newlines by changing the text edit field to the same single-line type that shows up at the bottom of the editor where the other fields are, but I don't think it's very usable. So those are the issues! Let me know your ideas. - Reid On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 7:47:37 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: > > Reid, > > Is the short text field still displaying inside other tiddlers outside the > board or board items? I would certainly prefer that as I keep entering > commands in short text and they don't work. > > thanks > Tony > > On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 7:05:10 AM UTC+10, Reid Gould wrote: >> >> To all, >> >> The third and final "feature preview" release is available! Version 0.1.3 >> contains all the features I'm planning on including in the version 1 >> release. This version should contain no bugs or unexpected behaviors. STILL >> WAIT to use it in a permanent installation, I'm tidying up internal naming >> and how I'm saving some of the temporary state associated with boards and I >> won't be providing an upgrade path from version 0 to version 1. >> >> New features and significant changes include: >> >> - The "Search Filter" list. when a filter is typed into this control, >> a special list appears on the side which contains results from tiddlers >> in >> the wiki that are outside the board. This is very handy way to import >> tiddlers onto the board, or maybe even to pop up a temporary board just >> to >> quickly sort a bunch of tiddlers into tags, then delete the board if you >> don't need it. >> - "New Card" now generates titles using the shortid plugin, which >> makes a string of letters and numbers that is URL friendly and >> cryptographically guaranteed to be unique. The old way just used a >> timestamp, which is not good for sharing with others and redundant with >> the >> "created" field. >> - Improved "boardHeight" and "listWidth" controls, including the >> ability to snap to a number of lists visible that will change with the >> size >> of your window, and the ability to set the height to 100% to fit >> perfectly >> when using "Open in a New Window". >> - Board title shows up in the separated windows. >> - More powerful user filter for cards on the board. The user filter >> is now appended to the end of the filter that generates the content of >> each >> list, so you can type any number of runs which should always start with >> the >> "+" or "-" modifiers. >> - Tid download buttons were making bad files that couldn't be >> imported, they are now fixed. >> >> There will still be some cosmetic changes, such as a restyle to make a >> much more thin control banner, and I'll be posting a version 0.2.0 as a >> release candidate and asking for code review soon. >> >> I've been thinking about names, and right now I think I'm going to call >> the plugin "Dropboard". It's still a very utilitarian name, but I think >> that's ok because it will most often be seen next to "TiddlyWiki" and it >> won't compete for attention, while still being fairly descriptive about >> what it does. >> >> Thanks everybody! >> >> - Reid >> >> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:26:01 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote: >>> >>> >>> To anyone still following, >>> >>> A new version is online at the same link >>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> above! >>> I've worked out a number of critical bugs, you should no longer see >>> cards landing in places different from where they were dropped. All the >>> features visible in the control banner are fully functional, plus a few >>> more including: >>> >>> - Collapsible lists! The button on the right hand side of the list >>> title will collapse your list to a thin view so that the cards do not >>> display, but you can still drag cards into that list. One use might be >>> for >>> a "Done" list that over time could get very long. Collapsing the list >>> will >>> reduce lag in the interface and keep distractions away. >>> - A filter field for the user to type any TW filter that hides any >>> card that matches, so you can focus in on only what you want to see. >>> - Ability to hide the normal "text" field on cards, so that you can >>> use BLC even when content is large. You can use the BLC "shorttext" >>> field >>> for a summary paragraph containing only plain text, or only see the >>> title >>> of the card. Cards with hidden text fields show an attachment icon at >>> the >>> bottom right. >>> - Ability to hide display of image tiddlers. >>> - Options for the total board height and list width, including an >>> option to limit list width to a maximum value. >>> - Ability to drag tiddlers between card and list positions. Try >>> making several lists with some cards inside, then drag them all into a >>> "list of lists" to stow them out of the way as cards, but keep them >>> easily >>> accessible to move back into list position. >>> >>> Remember, BLC is still in beta. Don't use it in a permanent installation >>> YET. I will soon be requesting code review over in the dev group, and will >>> let everyone know when it hits version 1. >>> >>> Thanks to everyone for responding with your encouragement and >>> suggestions, keep it coming and let me know about any bugs or issues you >>> find when testing. >>> >>> One last thing! I think the name "BLC" is a little boring. Do you all >>> have any better ideas of what we could call this thing? Please share! >>> >>> - Reid >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 10:07:47 AM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote: >>>> >>>> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day! >>>> >>>> The wiki: User Guide and Demo >>>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> >>>> Source on GitHub: https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin >>>> >>>> Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I >>>> can't stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically >>>> hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list >>>> fields >>>> and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to >>>> transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing >>>> tiddlers in board, list, card style. >>>> >>>> WARNING: This is still in quite early development and is very much not >>>> stable. I'm partway through a refactor of the macros I'm using for listops >>>> and they have some bugs. >>>> >>>> Still, it's starting to become something, so I'm sharing it now hoping >>>> for some feedback from you more experienced users. I'd welcome issues on >>>> the GitHub page, or any sort of suggestions here on the forum. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all the people who made this awesome little tool! >>>> >>>> - Reid >>>> >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/90f951c7-0008-4904-abe6-394f58a62091%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
