I was kind of waiting for the question ;-)

It might be better to look at the documentation for substitution. 
Everything you saw on that page gave examples of transclusion. Substitution 
occurs *inside* macros using either $var$ or $(var)$ (environmental 
variables).  In the example 

<$text text=<<myMacro>>/>

The *results* of a macro are being transcluded as the value passed to the 
text attribute. Substitution would only occur if you called a macro with 
parameters (or used environmental variable markers)

\define myMacro() $(currentTiddler)$ is my favorite tiddler

If you were then inside the tiddler, CatTiddler the results of the above 
text widget would be:

CatTiddler is my favorite tiddler

The value of <<myMacro>> would be transcluded to the text attribute, but 
the substitution would occur inside the macro.

The main thing to get out of this is, whenever you need to join 2 pieces of 
text, you are probably going to need a macro and it's text-substituting 
ability.

It's probably best not to get hung up on the terminology at the start. Try 
a few examples of your own for transclusions and maybe even defining/using 
your own macros. 

Good luck,
Mark


On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:29:29 PM UTC-7, TiddlyNoob wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm a software developer and just started learning TiddlyWiki a few days 
> ago. I'm trying to grasp the fundamentals before delving too deep in the 
> complicated stuff. 
>
> Transclusion seems like an important concept to grasp, and I could get by 
> with the general understanding that it's simply including the contents of a 
> macro, variable, or tiddler field in some context, whether it be in the 
> body of a tiddler, or as the value of an HTML attribute, but I can't help 
> but question the ambiguity in the documentation, especially when it 
> compares transclusion to substitution.
>
> The definition <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion>of transclusion in 
> the documentation describes it as a process of including the contents of 
> one tiddler into another tiddler.
>
> The Transclusion and Substitution 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20and%20Substitution> documentation 
> basically describes every type of substitution as an example of 
> transclusion, whether it's a tiddler field, macro, or variable you are 
> referencing, and whether or not you are doing it in the body of a tiddler, 
> or in a filter, or as the value of an attribute. It then goes on to say 
> that the key distinction between transclusion and substitution is that 
> substitution happens before WikiText processing, so it's just a simple 
> substitution of text without WikiText processing. Transclusion, however, 
> includes WikiText processing.
>
> But the example it gives for transclusion of a macro in an attribute:
>
> <$text text=<<myMacro>>/>
>
> ..seems to be just regular substitution, since there is no WikiText 
> processing.
>
> This confusion seems apparent in other places in the documentation as 
> well, such as in HTML in WikiText 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#HTML%20in%20WikiText>, where it describes 
> examples that use tiddler fields attr={{tiddler}} as using transclusion, 
> but then the macro examples <div title=<<MyMacro "Brian">>> do not 
> mention transclusion at all.
>

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