Hi Heather,

Your pain is our collective failure to resolve an issue we've had for a 
long time. We are clearly not doing a good enough job of explaining 
Tiddlywiki to new users. 

It's nobody's fault, really. The very nature of tiddlywiki is to be 
non-linear and the website for Tiddlywiki *is* a Tiddlywiki, so it has 
*everything* crammed into it - the most advanced, esoteric topics right 
alongside the most basic information. For those of us who already (kind of) 
know what's going on, it's too easy to lose sight of just how confusing it 
is for newbies.

But, we really have to fix it if we want more people to use Tiddlywiki (and 
anyone who uses it should want that, because it's the best way to ensure it 
sticks around).

This problem is made ~1000 times worse with the current situation of having 
17 (!) different available saving mechanisms listed on the main page and 
expecting people to somehow know what's going on.

I'm really sorry you had such confusion but if you're willing to stick with 
it a little, we can help you figure it out and hopefully we will learn 
something from your experience that we can use to improve the documentation.

I'm assuming that you have an actual mac and not just iOS devices? If so, 
start like this.

1. Go to https://www.tiddlywiki.com
2. Scroll down to click the green button that says 'download empty'
3. Open the file that you downloaded - this is "a tiddlywiki" and it's 
running wholly on your own computer
4. Click the + icon in the sidebar to make a new tiddler
5. Notice that the 'tick in a circle' icon turns red - this means you have 
unsaved changes
6. Click the 'tick in a circle' icon to download another copy of your wiki
7. You can continue to add content to the copy you have open and "download" 
a new copy whenever you want to
8. You can host your wiki anywhere the same way you would host any html 
file, but you need to keep track of all the downloads to make sure you have 
the latest one

This is called the 'download saver' mechanism and the other 16 (!) methods 
all exist because it is quite clunky.

Tiddlywiki gives you complete control of your own information but of course 
the flip-side of that is it gives you complete responsibility. That's why 
it's so important to make sure you figure out the whole saving malarkey 
before you invest time in making anything substantial and hence why we have 
to make such a song-and-dance about it.

For every person who posts here, I bet there are literally hundreds who 
give up and walk away feeling stupid (you're not) so thank you very much 
for taking the time. I hope you'll give it another try and let us know if 
there's anything else that we can help you with. 

Regards,
Richard



On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 7:37:19 PM UTC+11, Heather Mcclelland wrote:
>
> Every time I start getting confident about my technical abilities, I find 
> something that puts me squarely in my place.
>
> I am an all over apple user. And that means I have info all over all my 
> apple devices, mostly in various apps and of course all over the cloud.
>
> I started googling personal knowledge management to see what I could do 
> about putting everything in one spot, in the hopes of sharing at some 
> point. I came across tiddlywinks. In theory, it sounds awesome. But, I have 
> no clue where to start. And worse, I'm having a hard time understanding how 
> to access whatever it is that I'm creating. 
>
> I'm a graphic design student and am feeling a little dumb at my lack of 
> knowledge in the developing area.
>
> Where is a good place to go with just some very basic info?
>
>

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