Richard, Please be aware your statement "I bet there are literally hundreds who give up and walk away feeling stupid" is speculation, and I do not think it fair to say it to new users.It could be a "self fulfilling prophecy". Sure show compassion and offer support, continue to promote improvement but saying "Huston We Have a Problem" at the front door, when it is only an opinion. Hmmmm
Otherwise I love your contributions Richard. Regards Tony On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:34:57 UTC+11, RichardWilliamSmith wrote: > > Hi Heather, > > Your pain is our collective failure to resolve an issue we've had for a > long time. We are clearly not doing a good enough job of explaining > Tiddlywiki to new users. > > It's nobody's fault, really. The very nature of tiddlywiki is to be > non-linear and the website for Tiddlywiki *is* a Tiddlywiki, so it has > *everything* crammed into it - the most advanced, esoteric topics right > alongside the most basic information. For those of us who already (kind of) > know what's going on, it's too easy to lose sight of just how confusing it > is for newbies. > > But, we really have to fix it if we want more people to use Tiddlywiki > (and anyone who uses it should want that, because it's the best way to > ensure it sticks around). > > This problem is made ~1000 times worse with the current situation of > having 17 (!) different available saving mechanisms listed on the main page > and expecting people to somehow know what's going on. > > I'm really sorry you had such confusion but if you're willing to stick > with it a little, we can help you figure it out and hopefully we will learn > something from your experience that we can use to improve the documentation. > > I'm assuming that you have an actual mac and not just iOS devices? If so, > start like this. > > 1. Go to https://www.tiddlywiki.com > 2. Scroll down to click the green button that says 'download empty' > 3. Open the file that you downloaded - this is "a tiddlywiki" and it's > running wholly on your own computer > 4. Click the + icon in the sidebar to make a new tiddler > 5. Notice that the 'tick in a circle' icon turns red - this means you have > unsaved changes > 6. Click the 'tick in a circle' icon to download another copy of your wiki > 7. You can continue to add content to the copy you have open and > "download" a new copy whenever you want to > 8. You can host your wiki anywhere the same way you would host any html > file, but you need to keep track of all the downloads to make sure you have > the latest one > > This is called the 'download saver' mechanism and the other 16 (!) methods > all exist because it is quite clunky. > > Tiddlywiki gives you complete control of your own information but of > course the flip-side of that is it gives you complete responsibility. > That's why it's so important to make sure you figure out the whole saving > malarkey before you invest time in making anything substantial and hence > why we have to make such a song-and-dance about it. > > For every person who posts here, I bet there are literally hundreds who > give up and walk away feeling stupid (you're not) so thank you very much > for taking the time. I hope you'll give it another try and let us know if > there's anything else that we can help you with. > > Regards, > Richard > > > > On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 7:37:19 PM UTC+11, Heather Mcclelland wrote: >> >> Every time I start getting confident about my technical abilities, I find >> something that puts me squarely in my place. >> >> I am an all over apple user. And that means I have info all over all my >> apple devices, mostly in various apps and of course all over the cloud. >> >> I started googling personal knowledge management to see what I could do >> about putting everything in one spot, in the hopes of sharing at some >> point. I came across tiddlywinks. In theory, it sounds awesome. But, I have >> no clue where to start. And worse, I'm having a hard time understanding how >> to access whatever it is that I'm creating. >> >> I'm a graphic design student and am feeling a little dumb at my lack of >> knowledge in the developing area. >> >> Where is a good place to go with just some very basic info? >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7262793a-5c94-410c-b09e-565f1bf411d9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
