Hey Evan,

Sorry if Im missing something, but is

now() and date(12,12,12)

not working?

Thanks!

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 2:09:26 AM UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> Hey, Tony —
>
> The tw_date function should do what you want:  It manually turns other 
> things into dates, bypassing the normal "interpretation" mechanism.  It 
> will accept YYYYMMDD dates with each subsequent part being optional.  It 
> might not work on data that have been interpreted as numbers, which can 
> happen with {{transclude}} syntax...  To avoid the interpretation, you can 
> use the "transclude" or "variable" functions to fetch raw, uninterpreted 
> text:
>
> ... tw_date(transclude("tiddler", "field")) ...
>
> Basically the idea is that all automatic conversion can be bypassed or 
> done manually.
>
> The "fall-back" behaviors you're describing would best be implemented with 
> the "iferror" function, which formula doesn't implement yet.  Other than 
> that I advise using some string-related functions to figure out what kind 
> of data you're dealing with.  For example, 
> len(trim(x))==0
> tells you if some data is blank (ie, only whitespace or nothing at all).
>
> I might have to investigate the interoperation problems between formula 
> and condition.
>
> On Saturday, 3 February 2018 21:35:13 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Evan,
>>
>> Thanks again for your work.
>>
>> To the point : *So I suppose I am asking, "can the treatment of empty or 
>> blank date fields be restored?", or could you "tell me a way to treat such 
>> fields to avoid the errors?"*
>>
>> I will return to blank dates shortly.
>>
>> *Date Format*
>> First, removing the trailing "00" or using 000 does indeed let a date 
>> display correctly THANKYOU
>> I was erroneously setting dates to one digit short
>> <$action-setfield $field=date-field $value=<<now YYYY0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss000>> 
>> $timestamp=no />
>> Previously however this was tolerated. As was a date field with only the 
>> date YYYY0MM0DD and other combinations (I have not retested)
>>
>> *Blank dates*
>>
>> This behaviour has changed, I am now getting these errors below when 
>> previously use of date fields that had empty or a single space in the date 
>> field were tolerated and no result was returned,
>>
>> ComputeError: Cannot auto-convert "" to a date!
>> ComputeError: Cannot auto-convert " " to a date!
>>
>> I was using the existence of a date-field to trigger the display, time 
>> stamp or edit of that and other fields
>>
>>
>>    - For example if item-started existed it allows you to "select, enter 
>>    or time stamp the date"  item-started
>>    - Basically the existence of item-started indicates the tiddler is 
>>    now under disposition management (regardless of its value or not)
>>    - It also provides the ability to optionally provide a item-completed 
>>    or item-cancelled dates
>>    - If I accidentally cancelled the item and cleared the item-cancelled 
>>    date, to instead set the completed date, I would have a blank cancelled 
>>    date field.
>>    
>> *Why permit " " dates*
>> If I am using the existence of a date field empty or otherwise I use a 
>> filter that includes has[fieldname]
>> Of note was that this has[fieldname] filter often seemed only to work 
>> when the field existed and was not empty, hence the use of " "
>>
>> On example of where formulas was tolerant of blank and space was in the 
>> following, which calculates the number of days between the date-fields 
>> value and today.
>>
>> \define daystoday(datefield)
>> (= days( now(), date( {{!!$datefield$}} ) ) =)
>> \end
>>
>>
>> Other examples, It is fine for these to return nothing
>>
>> (= if(tw_date({{!!$datefield$}})=now(),"Today","Not Today") =)
>>
>>
>> \define showtodayrange(datefield1,datefield2)
>> <progress value=<<formula "days( date( {{!!$datefield1$}} ) , now() )">> 
>> max=<<formula "days( date( {{!!$datefield1$}} ) , date( {{!!$datefield2$}} 
>> ))">>/> 
>> \end
>>
>>
>> <$if value=(={{!!$datefield$}}=)>
>>  Has value (=date({{!!$datefield$}})=)
>>  <$set name=indate value= (=date({{!!$datefield$}})=)>
>> </$if> 
>> <$else>
>>  No Value (={{!!$datefield$}}=)
>>  <$set name=indate value=(=now()=)>
>> </$else>
>>
>> The above also seems broken, using The *Condition* plugin for TiddlyWiki, 
>> version 0.1.0 (disabled or not)
>>
>>
>> *So I suppose I am asking, "can the treatment of empty or blank date fields 
>> be restored?", or could you "tell me a way to treat such fields to avoid the 
>> errors?"*
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 12:54:42 PM UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all —
>>>
>>> Formula 0.2.2 is out:  https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>>> GitHub:  https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>>>
>>> Changes:
>>>
>>>    - Fixed a bug in the parsing of /* block comments */. // line 
>>>    comments also work.
>>>    - Implemented regular expression literals in the JavaScript style: 
>>>    /regex/g
>>>       - May be used as a Datum 
>>>       <https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Datum>
>>>       - When converting strings to regex, both JavaScript and 
>>>       TiddlyWiki styles will be recognized.
>>>    - Formula errors now mention LET assignments they lie inside.
>>>    - Formulas as Tag Attributes 
>>>    
>>> <https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Formulas%20as%20Tag%20Attributes>
>>>  are 
>>>    now facilitated by a mod using the experimental Mod-Loader Plugin 
>>>    <https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Mod-Loader%20Plugin>
>>>    .
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tony* — I fixed some coercion bugs in 0.2.1 but I'm not sure if those 
>>> cover the issues you're reporting.
>>>
>>> The blank definitely won't be treated as a date (what would it default 
>>> to, anyway?)
>>>
>>> As for the other one, 2017122410592500 isn't quite a valid TiddlyWiki 
>>> date under current semantics.
>>>
>>> *2017 12 24 10 59 25 00*
>>>
>>> The last bit (milliseconds) should be either 3 digits or completely 
>>> absent.  AFAIK TiddlyWiki dates are never expressed to "centisecond" 
>>> precision so this looks out of place to me.  I'm strict about what Formula 
>>> interprets as a date, because these strings of digits could also be numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>> *BurningTree* — that's a nice looking spreadsheet UI.  Consider your 
>>> experimentation encouraged!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 2 February 2018 22:30:02 UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>
>>>> I've found this *handsontable* library and tried making a basic widget 
>>>> here: spreadsheet widget 
>>>> <http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/#hot%20spreadsheet:%5B%5Bhot%20spreadsheet%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bthe%20tap%20widget%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bthe%20swipe%20widget%5D%5D%20%5B%5BThe%20widthreveal%20macro%5D%5D%20%5B%5BThe%20wheelreveal%20macro%5D%5D%20%5B%5BPredefined%20layouts%5D%5D%20%5B%5BThis%20is%20a%20preview%20for%20what's%20coming%20with%20v0.1.2%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bmy%20creator%20invented%20the%20touchscreen%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHow%20to%20get%20this%20on%20your%20pc%2C%20laptop%20or%20mobile%20device%5D%5D%20%5B%5B4%20TAP%20to%20Tiddler%20MODAL%20and%20LONG%20PRESS%20to%20open%20sidebar%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bautopopulate%20this%20wiki%20with%20images%5D%5D%20%5B%5BCeci%20n%E2%80%99est%20pas%20une%20pipe.%5D%5D%20%5B%5BI%20am%20Mr.%20Van%20Gogh%5D%5D%20%5B%5BI%20am%20one%20of%20that%20guy's%20paintings%5D%5D%20seamless%20%5B%5Bthe%20best%3A%20you%20can%20drag%2010%20Tiddlers%20at%20once.%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bwatch%20muuri%20in%20different%20colors%5D%5D%20%5B%5Brun%20to%20the%20hills!%5D%5D%20%5B%5BThat's%20the%20way%20I%20like%20it!%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bthe%20best%20louvre%20moment%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bmuuri%20is%20the%20finnish%20word%20for%20wall%5D%5D%20%5B%5Banalogue%20clock%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bmuuri%2C%20muuri%20-%20what's%20this%20muuri-bla%20all%20about%3F%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bsave%20wiki%20button%5D%5D%20%5B%5Ba%20little%20bit%20of%20transparency%5D%5D>
>>>>
>>>> The docs <https://docs.handsontable.com/0.35.1/Core.html> look 
>>>> promising and the interface is very nice - the license is MIT
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>

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