Many thanks Josiah, I should also add the resources by Tobias Beer <http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Welcome>. A collection of solution to questions raised in this forum!
Best Mohammad On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 2:58:00 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao Mohammad > > I'm aware I may be coming over more negative than I actually am. But I do > think there is "fragmentation" of resources in TW that is avoidable. > > Mohammad wrote: >> >> I also use the TW for my students. The issue is due to the non-linear >> nature of TW, most students confuse and it is difficult to them to find a >> good solution for their problems in using TW. >> > > I fully agree the dilemma of students can be very much like that. And it > is not that different than, say, you wanted to train in Anthropology. That > field, like any, has its own logic & it takes time to orientate. > > But I don't think that is our central issue. > > >> As a simple wiki the bare TW (standard edition) is enough, but as they go >> in depth for more applied usage like dissertation, project and term papers >> they have problems can not be addressed >> by themselves nor from TW documentation nor simply from TW forum. >> > > Right. Exactly. THAT is my point. > > And I am absolutely sure we could organise better to address it. Part of > the issue is it needs time & people to do it. And another part, a bigger > part, is one person can't do that really. So, in the end, I've concluded > > ...it is much more about having a METHODOLOGY, A SYSTEM, for being able to > quickly organise links to significant stuff. > > ...THAT we lack in an adequate form. Full stop. > > >> I think one way is to have more editions for different applications, also >> a structured step by step tutorial (basics, intermediate and advanced) can >> be helpful. >> > > Yep. I agree. But as I have indicated several times before its a bit of a > myth that we lack editions or that we lack basic documentation for them. > Rather, the issue is that the main source of (adequate enough > proto-)documentation is THIS GG group you reading now. And it has NO sense > of history. So once a thread is completed its disappears into a messy swamp > you can't accurately find things in. But much of most of what you need is > usually in the archive for this list somewhere. > > In brief: *You often can't find what you need when you need it*. Apart > from tiddlywiki.com, everything is too DISORGANISED. > > >> One more thing indicated by TonyM, TiddlyWiki is not just a wiki, it is >> like a programming language and there is many many ways to adopt it for >> your own application. While this >> is a very good strength of TW, it makes confusion for newcomers. >> > > TonyM is right. But the "finding issue" applies there too, I think. > > BTW, it has been very interesting to watch, and help a bit, David Gifford > develop TiddlyWiki Toolmap > <https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM>, a basic listing of some > resources. Its indicative of the richness available that to otherwise find > would be burdensome. It is really helpful to have. But its still only the > Tip Of An Informational Iceberg that is largely invisible. > > Best wishes > Josiah > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/79e12f04-5079-4b73-86d8-db47b497e65c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
