Jed My intent was to explore themes liked you raised. I think they are interesting. I don't see the problem.
You will have to tell me the problem because I really can't see it in your interesting EXPLORATION. Best wishes Josiah On Saturday, 7 July 2018 21:19:30 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote: > > As enlightening as it is to see people's perceptions of what it means to > be 'female'/'female'/'hermaphodite'/'trans', they all come across as > prescriptive. If I don't show the 'male' or 'female' qualities described, > am I not 'male'/'female'? > > If I say that I am female, but I don't fit any of the 'female' qualities > described here, am I going to be accepted as female by the group? What > about the 'male' ones? If instead I display the 'male' qualities described, > am I going to be treated differently than if I display the 'female' > qualities? > > If I am a male and my name is 'Jackie', am I going to have to spend the > entire time wondering how that affects how the others in the group think > about me? If the question is important enough to be asked and answered then > it certainly seems like it would have some effect. > > And then when the question being an uncomfortable one for people is > brought up, the response is that the only way something is going to be done > about it is if a good enough explanation can be given. > > This is not an isolated incident. This happens in every group where > something like this comes up. After the 10th or 100th time it seems rather > hopeless and there is no reason to actually answer the question because in > a month/six month/year/whatever the same thing will come up and the same > explanation will be demanded. > > So if you are someone whose gender is routinely questioned by people, how > much effort should you have to put into making other people actually treat > you as a person? Does the responsibility of making a group a friendly and > inclusive place fall on the people who lack friendly inclusive places? > Should they have to explain every time something happens? > > Questions like this also beg similar questions. Is TiddlyWiki NT? ND? If > tiddlywiki has a gender, does it have a sexual orientation? Why would any > of those questions be any less reasonable to ask than if it has a gender? > > If you want an enlightening experience, you should ask if people think > that TiddlyWiki is bipolar, and then remember that everything someone says > in response is what they think when they hear that I am bipolar. Or > dyslexic. And then there will be innumerable reasons why "oh, well it > wasn't about you", just somehow the generalisations are about the mythical > "bipolar people who aren't present". > > These are hardly academic questions, when I saw this question here, I > seriously considered just leaving the group. The only reason I am answering > you is that you have been nice in the past, and I think that you genuinely > don't understand what the question implies. If I had been feeling bad today > I would have just left. > > The tech community in particular is very bad about things like this, and > it is much much easier to just leave a group that has problems than try to > explain every time. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e1d3fd63-c718-4b75-9dd0-7eae29531fd3%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
