You all "hack" inside TiddlyWiki using wikitext to get it to do what you want it to do. I "hack" the TiddlyWiki platform itself using JavaScript to get it to do what I want. :)
I'm actually terrible at wikitext. I'm always looking things up, and I've only ever written one complex macro and that was based on another complex macro that was similar So JavaScript isn't more complex, it's just different. You use the axe that I forged. Ok, Jeremy deserves that one, not me :D Hacking in the technical sense of breaking through security restrictions in an unauthorized manner is not related to tiddlywiki. Hacking in the sense of hacking stuff together is what TiddlyWiki seems designed for. "Oh, you want to do that? Should be possible." I differ from Jeremy in that I put myself in the head of the designer, not the computer. Thus I draw insperation from his code that he possibly never thought of, because I see the possibilities. I don't ask how we got here. I ask who put us here. The result is TiddlyServer and TW Cloud Connectors. That's how I do it. Am I the only one? Arlen On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 06:09 TonyM <[email protected]> wrote: > Great Question Mat, > > Having read through the reply's so far there are some great comments. Some > thoughts on mine on this that may offer another perspective. I was a hobby > programmer before I left school, then a professional Analyst/Programmer in > my early career, and I have always being a conceptual systems thinker, > programming solutions for my whole career. > > To me programming is the encoding of algorithms, instructions on a piece > of paper are good enough for this, but computer programming uses computers > to do so, so yes Tiddlywiki is a platform in which to program or capture > algorithms which we can make interactive and includes storage and > presentation. > > Is TiddlyWiki or its Wiki Text a programming language?, I do not think it > is a complete language and since it can incorporate JavaScript, and > leverages HTML and CSS does it need to would be a valid question. This is > in part why I call it a platform. Never the less perhaps there is value in > the community ensuring it is a complete programming language of its own, > ideally leveraging another language. > > While it may not be a complete language it has a number of elements that > are "high level language" components. The use of filters and lists allow us > to define a set which is then iterated for us rather than us writing the > code within that. Writing macros and Importing plugins allow use to build > or import higher levels of abstract logic, process and interface control > objects. > > TiddlyWiki is a "platform" because it brings together all the essential > features needs to encode algorithms including alternative ways to present > information/data, a highly customisable user interface, the ability to > serve it to a network or the world as well as a basis to build a database, > build sophisticated relationships and hierarchies, interact with other > resources and websites, import and export almost anything, and unlike most > other platforms in this space it can also be self contained, a more than > minimal Quine, or simply a stand alone document. > > Whilst they have being around for a long time in the last decade the > Information Technology community has expanded and a new emphasis has being > placed on Systems Thinking, Design thinking and UX (user interface). > TiddlyWiki is both a playground and a platform through which to exercise > both to a high level. > > Given the TiddlyWiki platform is so versatile I would describe my self as > a designer, designing solutions, capturing information and algorithms on > the TiddlyWiki platform. Except for people who are unaware of the platform > any one who uses TiddlyWiki is likely to be a designer as well. > > > Regards > Tony. > > > On Monday, 20 August 2018 21:09:19 UTC+10, Mat wrote: >> >> What "is" hacking in TW? Is it coding? Is the particular WikiText used in >> TW a high level programming language? Or is it just markup? >> >> ...semi related... >> >> IRL, I compare TW to building with lego. I master TW pretty well so I say >> I can build "anything" with TW analogously to how I can build "anything" >> with lego. So is that actually constructing things? Maybe it should be >> called "prototyping" even if it's not prototypes? >> >> <:-) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1d981ff9-0520-42b7-91b1-36b09006aa82%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1d981ff9-0520-42b7-91b1-36b09006aa82%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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