Thank you! No need to apologize.

I agree with your points and no worries for pointing out its weaknesses - 
It was just a "napkin-sketch" response to "Not least that a cat can occupy 
a square or a circle. [as opposed to a cat]" and that "But a Fish would 
have had a hard time and require a very good re-designer. In any case, fish 
are too long." Neither of these are correct, and I only pointed out that it 
only took a few minutes to come up with an ad-hoc solution to shed light on 
this fact. 

I don't intend to work on it unless there is some confirmation that a 
change is indeed a possibility. Or that if the result is convincing it will 
be considered for a future release.
In that event, it'll take weeks to explore the possibilities, not minutes.

On the second point, though - It was intended to be seen as excretion. I 
always interpreted the poster this way. As a joke. When I posted my 
response I re-examined the poster and realized that it might not mean what 
I thought. :D I still think that its a funny idea with the slogan "Your 
messy thoughts, Organized" ... But it is probably not fitting to the 
tiddlywiki branding so I agree.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:04:28 PM UTC+2, Enneco Gotzon wrote:
>
> Hi Adam.
>
> I also believe that as TW logo your proposal is much more suitable than 
> the current cat; thank you.
>
> I think you have designed a good logo, but with all humility and due 
> respect regarding your work, I would like to make a few aesthetic 
> suggestions:
>
>    1. To better represent a graceful little fish I would stylize the 
>    stroke, avoiding thickening—I think that the thickened outline, specially 
>    in the head area, adds too much consistency.
>    2. I would avoid prolonging the upper right arm of the Y up to what 
>    can be interpreted as the anal-urinary area of the fish because it could 
> be 
>    interpreted as an excretion.
>    3. I believe that a logo should only convey the essence of the 
>    message. In addition, most of the time our TW logo will be a little image. 
>    Consequently, I would simplify its design as much as possible, showing 
> only 
>    the essentials.
>
> I hope to be relevant.
>
> I apologize for my audacity.
>
> Take care.
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Adam Shepherd <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> New forum member here.
>> I discovered TW about a year ago and I'm completely in love with it 
>> since. I never understood the cat.
>> I'm a designer and it took me precisely 7 minutes to cook up a square-ish 
>> (in its aspect-ratio, but the actual fish is intended to be friendly hence 
>> the curved lines) fish logo for TW that I think is better than the cat. It 
>> is more thematically linked. I also incorporated the brilliant idea of the 
>> poster. 
>> Keep in mind that this is a *VERY ROUGH, FAST SKETCH* but I imagine it 
>> could work. Think of it as a proof of concept.
>>
>>
>> Let me know if there is an official interest for a logo design for TW. 
>> I'd be very, *very* happy to do it. (I'd love to give something back for 
>> this amazing tool and I'm not good at coding, but logo design...half my 
>> life was spent doing that.)
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 11:08:25 AM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While a fish makes more sense, the cat is a better basis for a logo.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree. Not least that a cat can occupy a square or a circle. Last year 
>>> Twitter forced AVIs into circles. The several TW cats on there (
>>> https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/lists/tiddlywiki-international/members) 
>>> all needed to tweak a bit. But a Fish would have had a hard time and 
>>> require a very good re-designer. In any case, fish are too long.
>>>
>>> J. 
>>>
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