AdamS wrote: > > I've come to TiddlyWiki as a potential platform for writing. I'm still > trying to get it setup to do what I want it to do. I'm not really a > programmer. So there isn't much I know how to contribute there, but I can > think of some features that I think would improve ease for writers. >
I feel your difficulty. As a relative newbie you have the big hurdle of not knowing what exists that could help. Reading your post I highly recommend you look at the work of Thomas Elmiger (https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html) .... he's the writer's friend :-) for instance ... - His counter (that builds of OokTech's) has colour coding for target numbers and better configuration ... https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FEditorCounter - If you writing a book or sectioned document his ListReveal could help ... https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Flistreveal - He has a useful notes/footnotes gizmo that dynamically gives the numbering using CSS counters (note its experimental!) ... https://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#TextStretch%20Footnotes%20Extracted%20as%20List He has other helpful tools too, you'll see. The PLACEHOLDER idea looks very promising. Both BTC & Mark S. show ways it could work. It needs a lot of work yet but it could address the need for more "in context" editing that folk who just want to write need. HTH Josiah > > So far, I've included tongerner's sticky tiddlersbar and some of his > associated plugins for easy navigation. > > I've also included OokTech's word counter, which is great. Though I'm > wondering (as a non-programmer) if there is someway to use the same parser > that manages the markup vs. visible text distinction to create a word > counter that just counts visible text. > > Some kind of placeholder would be fantastic. Though even just a footnote > system that incremented automatically and used the form [[superscript 1 | > tiddler link]] would be great. > > Another thing that I think would be useful is an easy to use and navigate > parent/child relationships that didn't rely on tags but on some kind of > custom field that got auto-populated with child/parent links. This would be > useful for version control and editing, I think. First draft being the > root, and various other versions branching off it. Something like that. > That, in cunjunction with tiddlymap would be a wonder. > > Tongerner also has a "new template tiddler" button. I wonder if that could > be adapted to easily make multiple new custom template buttons for > initializing different kinds of tiddlers with ease. > > I realize this is turning into a sort of feature wishlist. Sorry about > that. > > The only other thing that springs to mind is a clone of The Most Dangerous > Writing App. For those who haven't used it, it's a web app in which you > must type constantly for some set amount of time (say 5 minutes) and if you > stop typing for more than three seconds, it erases everything you've > written. That, combined with custom template tiddlers, so you could > initialize a Most Dangerous Writing App tiddler that would then become a > normal tiddler (preserving your text) once the time limit had been reached. > > Any suggestions of where I could look, or how I could help in making > something like this are most welcome! > > Best regards, > > Adam > > On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:28:56 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >> Ciao Mark S. >> >> I am still playing around with this and thinking about it. I think its >> *really* good. >> >> More than anything its suggestive of a potential full design to be able >> to handle "placeholders" of all types. So you don't need a footnote plugin, >> or a stretch-text plugin, or manually typing commands for inline v. block >> transclusion, or ferreting around for transcluded Tiddler that hasn't been >> created yet. You have one in-line interface that handles it all. >> >> It looks to me as if this one approach could, maybe, handle the whole >> shbang? >> >> I'll comment more fully later. >> >> Best wishes >> Josiah >> >> On Sunday, 16 September 2018 00:04:45 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: >>> >>> Here's a start that has most of the mentioned features: >>> >>> \define linkfullname() $(target)$!!linktype >>> \define makelink() >>> <$reveal type="nomatch" state="""$(target)$!!caption""" text=""> >>> <$set name=title tiddler="""$(target)$""" field="caption"> >>> <$link to="$(target)$"><<title>></$link> >>> </$set> >>> </$reveal> >>> <$reveal type="match" state="""$(target)$!!caption""" text=""> >>> [[$(target)$]] >>> </$reveal> >>> \end >>> \define maketrans() <$transclude tiddler="""$(target)$""" mode="block"/> >>> \define makeedit() {{$(target)$||$:/core/ui/EditTemplate}} >>> \define tle(target) >>> <$set name="target" value="""$target$"""> >>> <$reveal type="nomatch" text="yes" state="$:/state/publish"> >>> <$radio tiddler="""$target$""" field=linktype value="link">L</$radio> >>> <$radio tiddler="""$target$""" field=linktype value="trans">T</$radio> >>> <$radio tiddler="""$target$""" field=linktype value="edit">E</$radio> >>> <$reveal type="match" text="link" state=<<linkfullname>>> >>> <<makelink>> >>> </$reveal> >>> <$reveal type="match" text="trans" state=<<linkfullname>>><br/> >>> <<maketrans>> >>> </$reveal> >>> <$reveal type="match" text="edit" state=<<linkfullname>>><br/> >>> <<makeedit>> >>> </$reveal> >>> </$reveal> >>> >>> <$reveal type="match" text="yes" state="$:/state/publish"> >>> <$transclude tiddler="""$target$""" mode="block"/> >>> </$reveal> >>> </$set> >>> \end >>> >>> $:/state/publish >>> >>> Publish? >>> <$radio tiddler="$:/state/publish" field="text" value="yes">Yes</$radio> >>> <$radio tiddler="$:/state/publish" field="text" value="no">No</$radio> >>> >>> ---- >>> <<tle "Your tiddler title here">> >>> >>> "tle" stands for "Transclusion, Link, Edit". The "edit" part is clumsy >>> since it just uses the edit template without mods to make it flow in the >>> current river. But it basically works and might serve as a start. The >>> "link" element defaults to using the caption if available so you can write >>> more descriptive titles without having to break links. It actually creates >>> the tiddlers just by clicking on the corresponding radio button. It does >>> this because it stores the current tle setting in the target tiddler. You >>> can put more <<tle>> macros into sub-tiddlers displayed via transclusion, >>> allowing a kind of sub-structure if you want. Though in general I think I >>> would just let the top tiddler provide the structure. >>> >>> This requires TW 5.1.15 or higher. >>> >>> Have fun, >>> -- Mark >>> >>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 10:39:08 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: >>>> >>>> Nice! >>>> >>>> The next step would be to have a button next to each item that allows >>>> you to switch from link to transclusion. And/or a small link when >>>> displayed >>>> as a transclusion so you could quickly edit the text. The current status >>>> would be stored in a flag in the tiddler. The macro might also need a way >>>> to display different text when linking. And also default to using caption >>>> (ala uni-links) when no link description is given. There would also be a >>>> master configuration tiddler for final publication that only shows the >>>> transcluded results with no buttons. >>>> >>>> These ideas are motivated by the need to move quickly between edit/view >>>> modes, and the fact that there is no easy way to change the contents of >>>> macros (or links) globally. So once you've created a title, it's easiest >>>> to >>>> stick with it though you may want it to be displayed differently. >>>> >>>> -- Mark >>>> >>>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-7, BurningTreeC wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm just adding my 2cents with an idea: >>>>> >>>>> a small macro that displays a link if the tiddler is missing, but >>>>> transcludes the tiddler if it's not: >>>>> >>>>> in a macro-tiddler: >>>>> >>>>> \define trl(text) >>>>> {{$text$||transcludilinktemplate}} >>>>> \end >>>>> >>>>> in the "transcludilinktemplate": >>>>> >>>>> <$list filter="[<currentTiddler>is[missing]]"> >>>>> <$link to=<<currentTiddler>>><<currentTiddler>></$link> >>>>> </$list> >>>>> <$list filter="[<currentTiddler>!is[missing]]"> >>>>> <$transclude/> >>>>> </$list> >>>>> >>>>> ... call it with <<trl "tiddler title">> and it's a link as long as >>>>> the tiddler doesn't exist and it transcludes it when it does, neat! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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