You're not going to have a lot of luck popularizing TW5 until the most 
common use cases do not require manually adding macros and widgets to the 
text. You'd also probably need to make the editor WYSIWYG, and provide 
buttons/menus and dialogs for adding those widgets.


On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 2:37:29 PM UTC-5, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> I was having a discussion with my wife about the TW -- I was saying how 
> great it was and so on and how useful it would be for her to learn and use.
>
> She was unconvinced - she said "only programmers are interested in things 
> like this" 
>
> I tried to convince her - but she wasn't convinced by all the  "you can 
> filter things on tags" arguments (which for me is the killer argument).
>
> "What's it useful for?" she said.
>
> (good question)
>
> "Everything," I said.
>
> After a while she came up with two ideas which thought I'd like to discuss 
> here:
>
> She said: "You need an app, it's got to be easy to use", and "how about 
> recipes?"
>
> The app bit is easy - it must run on an iPhone/Android/iPad and hide all 
> the details of saving/restoring versions.
>
> (aside) Is it easy to use? - the node version which I use is not 
> user-friendly to the total beginner - the all-in-one html version has dire 
> warnings about backup copies -- not something for total non-computer types 
> - for them it should just work. (/aside)
>
> What about recipes? - this seems like a good idea - If one tiddler = one 
> recipe then the tagging becomes easy, we can tag by ingredient (flour, 
> butter, potatoes) skill (easy, gourmet) time to prepare (20min, 30 min) 
> calories (high, low) etc.
>
> It's a lot of tags per recipe - BUT the mental model of a filter is easy
> tag[easy]tag[vegan]...
>
> To gain traction we'd need a lot of recipes
> so this might be a nice project to write an off-line program to transform 
> a collection of open-source recipes (if there are such things) into a TW.
>
> The net result would be rather nice - in the old days (before the 
> Internet) family recipes were passed on from generation to generation. 
>
> A TW recipe book would represent an interesting challenge. We need:
>
>  - loads of recipes
>  - to hide most of the TW
>  - to expose a user-friendly interface
>  - to provide nice printouts
>
> Once done package this as an app "my recipe book" and only expose the TW 
> in a gentle and non-threatening manner.
>
> Are there any TW recipe books or collections of open-source recipes that 
> can be turned into tiddlers?
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>
>
>  
>

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