Mark S.

Good practical post.

My take on it: we need a consolidated search mechanism better honed to 
finding things over  the major source materials.

TT

On Monday, 16 September 2019 16:08:40 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Not that I would disagree about the documentation, but a small bit of your 
> problem was Google search. It lead you to a static
> page that limited your other search options. In the upper right hand 
> portion of the page it was tagged "TiddlyWiki on Node.js" 
> which was meant to tip you off to the context.
>
> If you had gone to tiddlywiki.com, and typed "static" into the search, 
> you would have seen the same tiddler listed. But you would also have
> seen hundreds of other possibilities including 
>
> "How to export tiddlers"
>
> which is probably what you really wanted.
>
> When I'm looking for something about TiddlyWiki, and I think it's likely 
> part of the core, my first stop is TiddlyWiki.com.
>
> If I'm looking for something about TiddlyWiki, and I think it's likely a 
> 3rd party resource, my second stop is David Gifford's TiddlyWiki Toolmap 
> <https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#q=search>.
>
> If it was easy to do, I would modify "Generating Static Sites with 
> TiddlyWiki" to include a link at the top to the exporting files option.
> However, all the documentation is done through GitHub and the methodology 
> was changed without, ironically, a clear explanation
> of how to implement that change. Working this way is like building a ship 
> in a bottle or mining a mountain with a tooth pick. 
>
> Like others, I had started my own documentation for TW, but then realized 
> that it would be an enormous amount of work, and
> would only have whatever visibility it happened to gain via Google.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 2:40:12 AM UTC-7, un.o...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I love TiddlyWiki but I hate its documentation.
>>
>> Let me give you an example. I want to export my tiddlywiki to a static 
>> HTML web site, I spent an hour without success.
>>
>> Google gives me
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Generating%2520Static%2520Sites%2520with%2520TiddlyWiki.html
>> which tells me to use --rendertiddlers
>>
>> Note that if I click on a link to the command I go to
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/RenderTiddlersCommand.html
>> where it is said I should not use `--rendertiddlers` but `--render`.
>> If so, why don't the first page use `--render`?
>>
>> Whatever, what confuse me is how to use `--rendertiddlers`, I mean where 
>> to type the code?
>>
>> It looks like an option of some command from my Unix point of view but 
>> maybe there is some place in my tiddlywiki I should type that command which 
>> starts with `--`. So I searched if I could change the type of a tiddler to 
>> be executable, if there is a special tiddler hidden to run that command, 
>> but without success.
>>
>> Then I looked for `commands` in TiddlyWiki and I see 
>> "A command is one of the following words, written with a -- prefix and 
>> used as a command-line option under Node.js,"
>>
>> Argh, does it means I have to learn how to use Node.js? There is no other 
>> way to export my pages? Hopefully there is a link to 
>> "Using TiddlyWiki on Node.js".
>>
>> Here I find that indeed `--render` is an option of a command and not a 
>> command itself and that the main command is `tiddlywiki`.
>> What the hell is the program tiddlywiki? For years I thought that 
>> tiddlywiki was the empty.html file.
>>
>> So there is a tiddlywiki program. How do I download it? Is there is a 
>> version for Linux? When I search in Debian packages I cannot find it.
>>
>> So I am stuck and I lost a lot of time. A good documentation would have 
>> given me the command line from the beginning (at least in an exemple) and 
>> of course it would have explain me how to download the tiddlywiki program. 
>> Of course it would not suggest to use --rendertiddlers and somewhere else 
>> says that it is deprecated.
>>
>> One example does not make a documentation to be bad, but I must say it 
>> happened to me more than once that I had to find help on the Internet to 
>> understand the documentation. That's a pity because TiddlyWiki is great.
>>
>> Olivier.
>>
>> ps: I have no idea why that mail changes the fonts from paragraph to 
>> another. I guess it is a cursed day.
>>
>

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