Ciao Fibbles & Suzanne

This is a really interesting thread! I learned a lot from it.

I think part of the problem many of us have is the SYNTAX of filters is *both 
sophisticated and really difficult to master*.

[!is[system]] -[tags[]is[system]tagging[]] +[sort[title]] [[Program tips]] 
+[putfirst[]] [tags[]!is[system]sort[title]] [[contents]]

Whilst I can see NOW, more or less, how that makes sense, a non-tech 
begginer would likely see that as difficult variant of Algebraic Lithuanian 
with Albanian Qualifiers (p.s. some of my best friends are Lithuanians; not 
so sure about the Albanians :-).

My point? I do wonder whether we might develop a click-interface to ease 
the creation/learning of filters 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/qDiR3ONkbrs/dETL1PaeAQAJ>.

Just thoughts
TT


On Saturday, 5 October 2019 14:40:40 UTC+2, Flibbles wrote:
>
> Sounds good. Glad it works for you.
>
> For my own amusement, I was actually curious if there'd be a way to filter 
> out all system tagged tiddlers without having to specify 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet, $:/tags/Macro, and any others you may use
>
> [!is[system]] -[tags[]is[system]tagging[]] +[sort[title]] [[Program tips]] 
> +[putfirst[]] [tags[]!is[system]sort[title]] [[contents]]
>
> If what you already have works, then it works. I just did this mostly for 
> my own amusement, and thought I'd share.
>
> -Flibbles
>
> On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 1:00:49 AM UTC-4, Suzanne McHale wrote:
>>
>> Hi, that did have the result I wanted, thanks! The expression is now: 
>>
>> *[!is[system]!tag[$:/tags/Stylesheet]!tag[$:/tags/Macro]!tag[$:/tags/SideBar]sort[title]]
>>  
>> [[Program tips]] +[putfirst[]] [tags[]!is[system]sort[title]] [[contents]]* 
>> - 
>> exclude some pages tagged with $:/tags/, *then* sort other tiddlers by 
>> title, but put the Home page at the top, *then* follow this with tags 
>> contents pages, *then* the contents page (which lists all tags with 
>> their contents - a sort of meta page) last (at the bottom of the single 
>> page). 
>>
>> On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 8:52:09 PM UTC+10, Flibbles wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds like you want something like
>>>
>>> [!is[system]!tag[$:/tags/Stylesheet]!tag[$:/tags/Macro]sort[title]] [[
>>> Program Tips]] +[putfirst[]] [[In conclusion]]
>>>
>>> To put an item in last place, all you have to do is list it at the end. 
>>> Extra filter expressions dominantly append. So if an item shows up twice, 
>>> it'll take the last one. Thus [[In conclusion]] will now be the last. 
>>> There's no need to do any [putlast[]] stuff (which is designed to put the 
>>> first listItem last).
>>>
>>> Though this assumes [[In conclusion]] (or whatever you use) exists. If 
>>> there's a chance it doesn't, then end with [[In conclusion]is[tiddler]] 
>>> instead, which just prevents the filter from appending a non-existent title.
>>>
>>> -Flibbles
>>>
>>

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