> .
> The only thing I would like to ask is to not forget the translators,
> and the consequences for the way they can deliver their contributions.
> Thanks.

I'm afraid that the current arrangements for translators are far from perfect:

- translators have to deal with JavaScript's string quoting and
encoding rules, which are not particularly user friendly
- translators have to use subversion

To deal with the second issue, I think it makes sense to keep
translations at the upcoming, TiddlySpace-powered tiddlywiki.org,
removing the need for translators to learn git or subversion (there
are already quite a few translations at tiddlyspace.com). Dealing with
the JavaScript issue could be done by moving to a tiddler slice and
section syntax, admittedly a fairly significant core change.

Cheers

Jeremy

> Ton van Rooijen.
>
> On 21 jan, 12:28, Paul Downey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I didn't say "discard". The svn repo would remain in place, with full
>>> history. Reviewing that history would require an extra step, but still
>>> be possible.
>>
>> I can live with freezing trac.tiddlywiki.org and svn.tiddlywiki.org
>> and starting with an empty list in github with only actionable tickets
>> open which get fixed quickly. Chris has demonstrated this approach
>> works well with TiddlySpace.
>>
>>> A driving force behind moving to github is to remove both the
>>> perception and reality of any Osmosoft priority over priorities. If
>>> you keep your own fork of TiddlyWiki on github, and manage it in a
>>> shareable way, then it becomes easy for your changes and fixes to be
>>> merged into an official core, or even for your version to be become
>>> preferred.
>>
>> Perception is the key word here. I can fork TiddlyWiki as of now, but
>> it wouldn't be The TiddlyWiki that everyone else uses; the one
>> anointed by Jeremy Ruston.
>>
>> What has hampered TiddlyWiki development is a need to remain backwards
>> compatible with a myriad of adaptors, plugins and tweaks which hijack,
>> eval and monkey-patch the core in unpredictable ways.
>>
>> I think most developers quickly find git preferable to svn, if only
>> because of being able to work offline, and stage changes, and provide
>> and manage patches in an almost entertaining way via github.
>>
>> Backwards compatibility and consensus are hard issues to tackle and
>> are orthogonal to github (v) svn/trac, though new tools with a clean
>> slate can only help progress.
>>
>> --
>> Paul (psd)http://blog.whatfettle.com
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