I think the nub for me is that tw2 and tw5 wikitext don't really feel
like entirely separate content types. tw5 text is largely backwards
compatible out of the box, and as I've said, there is reason to be
hopeful that the details that have changed are amenable to automated
conversion.

So, I see the logic in this discussion as it would apply to two
utterly different wikitext formats, but this feels more like the
change from HTML4 to HTML5; no-one expected that to be done with a new
content type "text/html5".

Here, as Chris has already suggested, we could keep both wikitexts as
text/x-tiddlywiki, and make it a per-space setting to control which
parser is used.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM, FND <[email protected]> wrote:
>> One possibility might be to use text/x-tiddlywiki5 for the new format,
>> and text/x-tiddlywiki for the old, but to deprecate the latter in
>> favour of text/x-tiddlywiki2. Then we could declare that at some
>> future coordinated release of TiddlyWiki and TiddlyWeb we'll switch
>> the default interpretation of text/x-tiddlywiki to text/x-tiddlywiki5.
>
> Who benefits from such a dance? I'd rather stick to something
> stable and universal.

Just to be clear, the benefit would be that the majority of TiddlyWiki
users (ie those people who are not yet using it) would see a nice
simple world with a content type that just means "wikitext". They
wouldn't see any residue showing that there was once two different
wikitext formats.

In other words I'm suggesting a policy for this issue with two parts:
(a) don't break existing stuff and (b) polish the cowpaths for new
users.

> I'm don't run with the hardcore REST crew, but those people have
> discussed media types at length - often in the context of versioning
> HTTP APIs. If I recall correctly, they usually recommend custom media
> types to look like this: application/vnd.<...>;version=<...>
> (personally, I abhor[1] the "vendor" thing, and would rather see "text"
> than "application", but I'm not sure whether there's actual consensus
> around those things).

Versioned content types seem like a nightmare to me, I haven't
actually come across them in the wild.

> I look forward to TW5 joining the ecosystem as Yet Another Tiddler Handler.

Yes, but this discussion strays into something else, much more
intricate and interesting: how do we upgrade what constitutes a
wikitext tiddler?

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> [1] http://fnd.tiddlyspace.com/136582fd473
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