Hi Jeremy, could you please contact somehow BidiX or Grmble? I'v sent an email to BidiX (asking if he could take a look on this thread), but I'm not sure if it went to spam as it was short and contained a link to the thread. Is there still messaging engine on GitHub? I'v found accounts of both BidiX and Grmble, but can't see how to send a message now. Haven't found any other contact of Grmble either.
Best regards, Yakov. пятница, 22 марта 2013 г., 19:07:01 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал: > > Hi Yakov > > I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with TiddlySaver's internals - the recent > work on it has been done by BidiX and Grmble. I don't think any work has > been done on the unloading problem you mention. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Yakov <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> although Java works for me in my current set up, there are various >> limitations I'd like to point and discuss. >> >> First, a little story. When I moved to my new PC with Windows 7 x64, I >> had a great problem because I couldn't get saving through Java working. I >> finally succeded in the following way: I installed Java 6 (not 7), exported >> certificates from my previous PC and imported them in the new one. I can't >> provide systematic details as that was rather nervous situation, but >> important thing about it was that Java haven't suggested a security >> dialogue to accept the certificate or reject it, and I succeede *only* when >> I exported-imported that. (I tried different browsers, Opera, Chrome, >> Safari) >> >> Second detail is that I haven't got the new TiddlySaver.jar (13 Kb >> version) working in any setup. At all. Unfortunatelly, I haven't systemized >> my attempts as well, but here's what I can say for sure: >> >> Win7 x64 + >> Opera 12.14 + >> Sun Java 6 Update 20 + // saving wasn't working until I installed this >> one I used previously >> Oracle Java 7 64-bit update 7 + >> new TiddlySaver + >> TW 2.6.0/2.6.5/2.6.6/2.7.1 >> >> and >> >> Win Vista x64 + >> Opera 12.14 + >> Oracle Java 15 64-bit update 7 + >> Oracle Java 15 update 7 + >> new TiddlySaver + >> same TW versions/2.7.0 >> >> doesn't save for me. (interestingly, when I started a new testing in the >> first setup, I got the certificate notification from the Java 6 and finally >> accepted it) >> >> Third issue concerns old TiddlySaver + Oracle Java 7. In the second setup >> (Win Vista, old PC, no Java 6) saving worked in the TW 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 and >> doesn't work in TW 2.6.0, 2.7.0, 2.7.1. >> >> ---- >> >> Now, aside these versioning problems I have one practical problem (not >> very big, but still). The thing is when I open a TW in Opera (using old >> TiddlySaver) and then close it, the applet is not unloaded immediately. >> Instead, I have to wait about a minute and only then I can eject my >> usb-stick with TWs. I haven't much knowledge about Java, I took a look in >> the Shildt's book and found that there are stop() & destroy() methods which >> do the unloading and total unloading job, but that's not enough. I also >> googled for some other hints and found these [1], [2]. But first of all: >> does the new TiddlySaver already handles this? Was there such feature >> intended? >> >> Finally, if you can provide some details on how to track/debug these >> JavaScript-Java things like loading/unloading, that would probably be >> useful to dig this.. >> >> Best regards, >> Yakov. >> >> [1] >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1267033/kill-java-applet-via-javascript >> [2] >> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/applet/invokingAppletMethodsFromJavaScript.html >> >> PS I know about the Win 7 preview issue and take care of that. >> PPS I've heard that some "server apps" can substitute Java. If there's >> something simple and reliable out there, I'd be glad to hear. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWikiDev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
