Hi Yakov

Apologies, I only just realised that I hadn't replied to this.

As far as I can tell, the best way to get someones attention on GitHub is
to create an issue and mention their @-name in the body of the issue text.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Yakov <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
>
> could you please contact somehow BidiX or Grmble? I'v sent an email to
> BidiX (asking if he could take a look on this thread), but I'm not sure if
> it went to spam as it was short and contained a link to the thread. Is
> there still messaging engine on GitHub? I'v found accounts of both BidiX
> and Grmble, but can't see how to send a message now. Haven't found any
> other contact of Grmble either.
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> пятница, 22 марта 2013 г., 19:07:01 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston
> написал:
>>
>> Hi Yakov
>>
>> I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with TiddlySaver's internals - the
>> recent work on it has been done by BidiX and Grmble. I don't think any work
>> has been done on the unloading problem you mention.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> although Java works for me in my current set up, there are various
>>> limitations I'd like to point and discuss.
>>>
>>> First, a little story. When I moved to my new PC with Windows 7 x64, I
>>> had a great problem because I couldn't get saving through Java working. I
>>> finally succeded in the following way: I installed Java 6 (not 7), exported
>>> certificates from my previous PC and imported them in the new one. I can't
>>> provide systematic details as that was rather nervous situation, but
>>> important thing about it was that Java haven't suggested a security
>>> dialogue to accept the certificate or reject it, and I succeede *only* when
>>> I exported-imported that. (I tried different browsers, Opera, Chrome,
>>> Safari)
>>>
>>> Second detail is that I haven't got the new TiddlySaver.jar (13 Kb
>>> version) working in any setup. At all. Unfortunatelly, I haven't systemized
>>> my attempts as well, but here's what I can say for sure:
>>>
>>> Win7 x64 +
>>> Opera 12.14 +
>>> Sun Java 6 Update 20 + // saving wasn't working until I installed this
>>> one I used previously
>>> Oracle Java 7 64-bit update 7 +
>>> new TiddlySaver +
>>> TW 2.6.0/2.6.5/2.6.6/2.7.1
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> Win Vista x64 +
>>> Opera 12.14 +
>>> Oracle Java 15 64-bit update 7 +
>>> Oracle Java 15 update 7 +
>>> new TiddlySaver +
>>> same TW versions/2.7.0
>>>
>>> doesn't save for me. (interestingly, when I started a new testing in the
>>> first setup, I got the certificate notification from the Java 6 and finally
>>> accepted it)
>>>
>>> Third issue concerns old TiddlySaver + Oracle Java 7. In the second
>>> setup (Win Vista, old PC, no Java 6) saving worked in the TW 2.6.5 and
>>> 2.6.6 and doesn't work in TW 2.6.0, 2.7.0, 2.7.1.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> Now, aside these versioning problems I have one practical problem (not
>>> very big, but still). The thing is when I open a TW in Opera (using old
>>> TiddlySaver) and then close it, the applet is not unloaded immediately.
>>> Instead, I have to wait about a minute and only then I can eject my
>>> usb-stick with TWs. I haven't much knowledge about Java, I took a look in
>>> the Shildt's book and found that there are stop() & destroy() methods which
>>> do the unloading and total unloading job, but that's not enough. I also
>>> googled for some other hints and found these [1], [2]. But first of all:
>>> does the new TiddlySaver already handles this? Was there such feature
>>> intended?
>>>
>>> Finally, if you can provide some details on how to track/debug these
>>> JavaScript-Java things like loading/unloading, that would probably be
>>> useful to dig this..
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yakov.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1267033/kill-java-applet-via-javascript
>>> [2]
>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/applet/invokingAppletMethodsFromJavaScript.html
>>>
>>> PS I know about the Win 7 preview issue and take care of that.
>>> PPS I've heard that some "server apps" can substitute Java. If there's
>>> something simple and reliable out there, I'd be glad to hear.
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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