On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 8:35:48 AM UTC-5, Nicholas Spies wrote:
>
> For years, I have written a large amount of autobiographical, ideas and 
> such using the mind mapping (hierarchical) program FreeMind. In 
> transferring the data from FreeMind to TW5 I came up with the following 
> scheme to retain the hieerarchical nature of the data, which though not 
> ideal, does put the data in context, making navigation among related date 
> quite easy.
>
> For example: to represent a node (tiddler) named "CMU1 Staff GUI Desgn 
> People" I have put, directly under the Tags the following:
> NS 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_NS> 
> ⬅︎ Schooling 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_Schooling>
>  ⬅︎ Actual Schooling 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_Actual%20Schooling>
>  ⬅︎ College 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_College>
>  ⬅︎ Carnegie Mellon University 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_Carnegie%20Mellon%20University>
>  ⬅︎ CMU1 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_CMU1>
>  ⬅︎ CMU1-CAT 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_CMU1-CAT>
>  ⬅︎ Took at CMU1-CAT 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_Took%20at%20CMU1-CAT>
>  ⬅︎ ◉ ● Brad Meyers 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_Brad%20Meyers>
>  ●Nicholas Spies 
> <#CAJaQ20eCxC3yWB=T=9Eny8aRZSgVeOzV8BK=0hMpPOQ=XtMrLg@mail.gmail.com_Nicholas%20Spies>
>
> Each is a link that the arrow (which could have easily been "/" as in a 
> file system) points to is a tiddler that are based on the root "NS", that 
> is myself. The large dot represents the current tiddler, whose title is 
> perfectly evident at the tiddler title, while to the right of the dot are 
> the first level of subtopics , that happen not to be realized (yet) as 
> tiddlers, namely two people who attended this staff seminar on GUI design: 
> Brad Meyers and myself, who are at equal levels from the current 
> node/tiddler, because at this point I am just trying to reconstruct who 
> attended this semester-long seminar. Perhaps later I will structure the 
> seminar, putting Brad Meyers, the leader of the seminar on his own level, 
> with attendees at a lower level, each with their (assigned) topics and 
> presentations beneath each participant, etc.
>
> If I were to realize this as tags, I would have to order them from left to 
> right, which I believe is possible (but don't know where I do it), and use 
> the top item of each tag to "walk" back down to the root. Under each tag 
> pull-down menu there would be a listing of every tiddler containing the 
> tag, but the order of the hierarchy would be lost because the menus are 
> alphabetized. There is likely some way to fix this problem too, but it is 
> not at all evident where this type of ordering takes place, either.
>
> In the end, it seems that TiddlyWiki is just not prepared to deal with 
> this sort of organizational paradigm without at lot of behind-the-scenes 
> manipulation of meta-data to order tags and their contents, taking more 
> time than the method I have devised, although far from perfect, at least 
> works and is more or less self-evident.
>
> It suggests that there could be another layer of qusi-tags, shaped as they 
> are but with an arrow to the left, which are simply links to some previous 
> tiddler in a hierarchy of tiddlers, and then another shape, perhaps 
> incorporating a bullet, to indicate the subtopics of the current tiddler. 
>
> Then again, I may be entirely wrong on this score, and would like to know 
> what the TW way, that is already implemented, of solving this problem might 
> be .
>
> BTW: I find it very annoying that tidder fields are only one line, because 
> their contents may be many lines, making it necessary to copy and paste 
> them into a text editor to even see their contents, much less to edit them. 
> For development, such fields could be multiple lines, while for 
> distribution they could easily be hidden from view, it they are perceived 
> to be an eyesore.
>

This can be fixed. 
See: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywikidev/edit-text/tiddlywikidev/PoKze6ZoDfA/ozhWnr7ceG0J
 

>
> --Nick
>

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