Let me further emphasize my only point: I dont think Evan and Tobias are red herrings (especially because Tobias was here for a long long time).
My entire point is this: We should structure TW on github, so that we can: 1. Maintain backward compatibility - Priority number 1 2. take advantage of highly skilled people* giving limited amounts of time. *- Priority number 2 It doesn't make sense that *only* long-term committed people can contribute to the TW codebase. Many talented people can spend 1-2 weeks overhauling the popup mechanism for example, and then move on with their lives... On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 5:27:55 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: > > Diego, > > There are a few crossed wires here. I agree with the overall meaning in > this thread however Jed is commenting on the area of editions and using > plugins to avoid core changes for "edge Cases". > > The fact is we can all do this right now, generate special editions, with > any level of design, hacking and development. > > Jeremy has embraced suggestions which open tiddlywiki to hackability, thus > permitting editions and plugins, even macros to get past limitations. ie > opening up the possibilities. But as great as he is he is but one man, and > we will all benifit if we can open the funnel. > > Regards > Tony > > > On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 4:59:43 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote: >> >> Jed, >> >> If you look at: >> >> - issues on github >> - long abandoned contributions/plugins dying slow deaths on google >> groups >> - experiences trying to get a new person to try TW >> >> I'd say there is quite a bit of evidence of "barrier to entry" in many >> senses. >> >> Just as an example, look at: >> >> - all of the conversations Evan Balster had in this group, his >> plugin, and this PR: >> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3072 >> - All of Tobias' PR: >> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pulls/tobibeer >> >> Both Evan and Tobias are "inactive" right now, and there is no clear plan >> on what to do with all of their excellent work. >> >> All I am saying is that a project like this, that we all love and >> appreciate, should be in the best possible position to take advantage of >> highly skilled people* giving limited amounts of time.* >> >> >> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:24:21 AM UTC-6, Jed Carty wrote: >>> >>> I don't understand the comments about Jeremy having a high degree of >>> ownership. I don't know of any proposed editions that were actually >>> submitted that have been rejected. When I made the resume edition it was >>> accepted almost immediately. The only times he has hesitated or said no is >>> when something would prevent backwards compatibility in the core or it >>> would be better as an external plugin to maintain the flexibility of >>> tiddlywiki. I think that he has supported the idea of having more than just >>> the empty edition available for download on tiddlywiki.com, but no one >>> has created and submitted a editions for consideration yet. >>> >>> From what I can tell most of the perception comes from people thinking >>> that there is some barrier and not trying and then no one sees anyone >>> succeeding because very few people try and then they assume that they are >>> right about there being some barrier. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywikidev/6f37db67-79b1-4ce6-87a4-8dbcc3cf5bd7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
