PMario and all

I been thinking about all this. Especially markup symbols.

Looking back at Gruber 2004. At that time you were stuck visually on glyphs 
between a rock & a hard place.

We are no longer so constrained. 

MY POINT? Let us ensure we are VISUALLY free on markup symbols, not get 
stuck in 2004 code pages :-).

A thought
TT

On Saturday, 26 September 2020 13:57:05 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 1:33:40 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Quick point. In my USE CASE I'm interested in using CSS classes AS the 
>> "code" /.  shorthand (actual end-user text is inserted via CSS *::before 
>> *) . The user would see NO comprehensible text at all if they opened a 
>> Tiddler in edit mode ... They would see stuff like this ...
>>
>> °.x-4x
>> °A.standard-back
>>
>> etc ...
>>
>
> OK. ... That's interesting. 
>  
>
>> My point in my OP was to open-up what "readable" means. My "shorthand" is 
>> totally readable to me. It produces (in render) ...
>>
>> On all fours. First attend your back. Can you form a mental image of 
>> where it is in space?
>>
>> I don't think that approach is like Gruber Markdown at all. But the 
>> concepts Gruber initiated have had enormous shaping influence on how we 
>> think about markup. Especially in wikis.
>>
>
> It's true, readability is different for every user. ... My intention is, 
> to allow "styling" markup like .x-4x directly after the ID like: °.x-4x  
> but if the user chooses to make the wikitext more "verbose" they can move 
> the "cryptic" elements into the _params parameter and define a wikitext 
> like so: °this-and-that-should-happen ... 
>
> For me it's important that both variants work. 
>
> So when PMario talks about "readability" I want to push it :-) I think 
>> what he means is text in *"Gruber mode"*. I.e. part of normal language 
>> use with markup symbols that compliment that.
>>
>
> That's right, as written above.
>  
>
>> But PMario's tool actually opens up totally what "readability" could be. 
>> When you start thinking this through it gets liberating.
>>
>
> Yes. That's the intention. 
>  
>
>> TBH Tony, I don't think it is a programming syntax per se (in my use case 
>> it is just standard CSS, there is NO programmatic logic. Its simple text 
>> SUBSTITUTION).
>>
>  
>
>> The easiest was I could describe it is "*Private Shorthand Supporting 
>> Public Messaging*".
>>
>
> That's 1 usecase and it has been the initial one :)
>  
>
>> It is provision of an efficient method for supporting AUTHOR writing 
>> methods. Full stop.
>>
>
> yes .. over and out (for this post) q;-)
>
> -mario
>

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