Poul-Henning Kamp says:

Other people think that by sheer majority of users, the UTC timescale no longer belongs to the astronomers, and that it can and should be redefined to serve its major target audience better.

You _really_ need to get out more...

I did get out more. I've been focusing on two other issues entirely since scribbling that message. In the week or so since the message I was replying to was written, there have been dozens of other things going on. I will continue to return to UTC since it is an ongoing problem. Glancing over my message, I regret deciding to throw together a response - but it is hard to find time to give every issue the time it deserves to polish one's responses.

That said, are you of the opinion that your limited perception of my project list (or social calendar, for that matter) has anything at all to do with resolving technical issues? As you say, some fraction of the people interested in the topics of the definition and transport of civil time believe that UTC is a throwaway time scale that should be sacrificed for the greater good. Believing this does not make it so.

Let me reiterate my core assertions:

1) Civil time is a subdivision of the calendar and is thus a representation of time-of-day.

2) That said, one could imagine basing civil time on some time scale other than UTC. This is a policy question that should be addressed forthrightly, not via a tricky initiative involving a mid-level bureaucratic committee. We aren't just talking about leap seconds, we are talking about the definition of the concept of the "day". This is a potentially explosive political, legal and religious issue. Its current obscurity should not be taken for granted.

3) Whatever time scale civil time is based upon, the integrity of the underlying time scale should be respected. UTC has an existence separate from the ITU. It should be maintained whether or not civil time continues to correspond to UTC.

4) The real issue is the improvement of systems, data structures, and APIs used to transport time signals corresponding to multiple time scales. The current proposal is as much an attempt to sweep this important work under the rug, as it is an attempt to avoid subjecting non-conforming systems to the horrors of leap seconds. Shame on anyone who is looking for an easy way out.

Time is complex.  Embrace the complexity.

Rob Seaman
NOAO

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